Author Topic: Schumi shows his true colors again (Read 1145 times)

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 08, 2005, 12:46:18 PM »

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Riding a moto GP bike is also very hard work.

Definitly !!

MrCoffee · « **Reply #31 on:** March 08, 2005, 12:48:47 PM »

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Originally posted by -tronski- Traded paint? Senna deliberately swerved and blocked Prost at Estoril in 1988 almost putting Prost into the pit wall. Later Senna speared Prost's Ferrari off the track at Suzuka 1990 at the first corner to guarantee his championship win, and because Senna accused FIA President Jean-Marie Balestre of manipulating the World Championship to favor Prost.

yes that was a great race, lotsa drama. Prost was a true professional.

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Schumacher helped build Ferrari to the team they are. He is an integral part of the teams success.
He was also winning races when the Ferrari was a bathtub. To say it's all just the red car, is saying Senna was nothing without the McLaren Honda.

Tronsky

yep. although I think if senna if he had not passed away there would have been some great races between a more seasoned schumacher and senna. Back then, senna had his rivals in prost who was his perfect rival and mansell could out drive them both on occasions. Every now an then someone beets Schumi because his car is broken.

MrCoffee · « **Reply #32 on:** March 08, 2005, 01:09:05 PM »

and if you want my opinion, they should find a way to decrease the wheel base (yet keep the driver safe somehow). todays F1 cars are too unforgiving, thats why theres not as much passing and the mansell types cant get away with anything because todays F1 tires suck compared to pure slicks.

MrCoffee · « **Reply #33 on:** March 08, 2005, 01:43:15 PM »

so if you increase the wheel base of an F1 car what does that do. It causes it to understear earlier and overstear later into a turn is the general affect. So in a race when a driver wants to go all balls out and risk it to pass and the car hes driving is unforgivable in mid turn (meaning once its pass a certain point, fiorget it) then that tends to happen less often. Thats my opinion, debate me if you like, please dont flame me.

indy007 · « **Reply #34 on:** March 08, 2005, 01:50:48 PM »

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Originally posted by MrCoffee
so if you increase the wheel base of an F1 car what does that do. It causes it to understear earlier and overstear later into a turn is the general affect. So in a race when a driver wants to go all balls out and risk it to pass and the car hes driving is unforgivable in mid turn (meaning once its pass a certain point, fiorget it) then that tends to happen less often. Thats my opinion, debate me if you like, please dont flame me.

I could be totally off the market here, but I'll take at shot at it... A shortened wheelbase is also going to make a shorter car overall, further reducing downforce. You'd end up with cars that could blow down the straights, but slower in the corners. Since you make up your time in the corners & not on the straights, this wouldn't lead to more passing, and it would be inherrently more dangerous for the drivers. Ask the IRL guys if they think less downforce is a good idea

They're having to drive far more dangerous than they used to as of just last season.... now if those bastard Hondas would just drive alittle slower...

Lastly, the last thing you want is the cars slower in the corners. After Schumi's performance @ Suzuka last year, every car out there needs all the speed it can handle in the corners just to be competative

MrCoffee · « **Reply #35 on:** March 08, 2005, 02:03:51 PM »

Indy I've been watching motor racing since I first saw the german grand prix back in '85. Id prefer the sparks came back as well. when I watch the F1 cars today, they seem clumsy and only seem to shine when they are using their aerodynamics in fast direction changing S combos etc... but thats not where the passing is usually done. They had the formula correct years back just before comfuter aided traction control etc was invented. Also I prefer to watch them race with pure slicks since this is grand prix racing. Also they should have two US GPs.

Gixer · « **Reply #36 on:** March 08, 2005, 02:05:23 PM »

F1 drivers are over paid drama queens, Schui being the biggest queen of all. Compare their altitudes to the legends of 40 years ago. Never thought of any type of car racing as tough since your always sitting down. True you get a few lat g's in F1 I think WRC is much tougher.

When it comes to motorsports,physical fitness and toughness this makes anything else look girlie. Except speedway of course

~~...-Gixer~~

indy007 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 08, 2005, 02:15:50 PM »

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Originally posted by MrCoffee
Indy I've been watching motor racing since I first saw the german grand prix back in '85. Id prefer the sparks came back as well. when I watch the F1 cars today, they seem clumsy and only seem to shine when they are using their aerodynamics in fast direction changing S combos etc... but thats not where the passing is usually done. They had the formula correct years back just before comfuter aided traction control etc was invented. Also I prefer to watch them race with pure slicks since this is grand prix racing. Also they should have two US GPs.

I wouldn't go as far to say a 240mph, 19k redlining, 1g of braking just from letting off the gas pedal car is clumsy

but I know what you're talking about. Really, I don't watch F-1 for the racing. I watch it because the best cars in the entire world are on 1 track going as fast as they possibly can. When I wanna see 3-wide fender to fender, rubbin's racin', and 180mph traffic jams... I watch NASCAR

Skydancer · « **Reply #38 on:** March 08, 2005, 02:25:52 PM »

Gixer you are right there.

Gh0stFT · « **Reply #39 on:** March 08, 2005, 06:03:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Gixer
Never thought of any type of car racing as tough since your always sitting down
~~...-Gixer~~

I dont know, everytime i drive race carts around our local track
im done after 15minutes, i mean im really done, exhaust, wet to
the pants (if i really push for some hotlaps). And all this while having girly G-force compared to
the F1 G-forces LOL!

Gixer · « **Reply #40 on:** March 08, 2005, 07:51:43 PM »

Carts as in go-carts that kids race? 15mins? Sorry but that's a bit sad.

~~...-Gixer~~

-tronski- · « **Reply #41 on:** March 09, 2005, 06:13:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Gixer
Never thought of any type of car racing as tough since your always sitting down. True you get a few lat g's in F1 I think WRC is much tougher.

~~...-Gixer~~

5 G's under braking.....3-5 G's accelerating...2 G's+ lateral sustained in turns...

Tronsky

Gixer · « **Reply #42 on:** March 09, 2005, 07:08:57 AM »

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Originally posted by -tronski-
5 G's under braking.....3-5 G's accelerating...2 G's+ lateral sustained in turns...

Tronsky

All that while sitting down and never having to move your own weight? Amazing, how do they cope? The races are usually less then 2 hours,majority of their time isn't spent anywhere near those peaks. They have nice big trailers to relax in with their wifes and girlfriends that always seem to be models in between practice,qualifying and racing. That and the smallest injury and their rushed to hospital and take the rest of the season off.

~~...-Gixer~~

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #43 on:** March 09, 2005, 07:16:16 AM »

A different Schumacher (Tony)

6 g's 0 - 330mph (550 kph+/-) in 4.5 seconds

storch · « **Reply #44 on:** March 09, 2005, 07:27:30 AM »

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Originally posted by Skydancer
Athlete!!!! Good God all he does is sit in a car and make minor adjustments to the steering. He's no athlete. just a very highly paid passenger. F1 is not about the driver its about the car.

what a completely asenine thing to say.

Author Topic: Schumi shows his true colors again (Read 1145 times)

storch