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Siaf__csf · « **Reply #15 on:** March 11, 2005, 02:59:26 PM »

Well Toad, I can only speak for myself but the last thing I need at this time is another war.

Toad · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2005, 03:04:28 PM »

Gee... I think that's what US citizens were saying in 1939 as they read over the Neutrality Acts passed by Congress.

But of course, the US gets slammed for the attitude they held then... that you seem to hold now... on this BBS.

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #17 on:** March 11, 2005, 03:09:32 PM »

Hey Toad war sucks. We all could live without the events that took place back then. We all could live without fundamentalism and terror. We all could live without other countries invading others under false pretenses.

I'm not going to start an argument with you about this because I know it will be neverending. You're too good an opponent for that. I've learned it the hard way.

All I'm saying is that I'm not prepared to mess up my life with another war now or in the near future and I'm sure many of the europeans think the same way. You took a different path, which you have to walk through accordingly.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #18 on:** March 11, 2005, 03:12:31 PM »

you don't think supporting regimes like Saddams equates to supporting terrorism?

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #19 on:** March 11, 2005, 03:15:26 PM »

Dunno rabbit, you tell me. You can't blame anyone for doing something you did yourself so it's a moot point.

Toad · « **Reply #20 on:** March 11, 2005, 03:29:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
All I'm saying is that I'm not prepared to mess up my life with another war now or in the near future and I'm sure many of the europeans think the same way.

Actually, I have no problem with that.

However, I do get tired of seeing the slams on the US about not getting into WW2 as early as some folks seem to think we should have.

The experience we had in WW1 led directly to our numerous Neutrality Laws, meant to keep our politicoes from getting us involved in more slaughter on the European continent. In order to keep Americans from messing up their lives with another war; very many Americans thought that exact way.

Yet now we're slammed for it.

Oh, the irony, eh?

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #21 on:** March 11, 2005, 03:36:05 PM »

Yes Toad. As usual, politics is something that rarely holds decent discussion.

Too much emotion and strong personal opinnions are involved.

And I've learned to respect you as the opponent.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #22 on:** March 11, 2005, 03:37:18 PM »

I'm using blanket statements like you did. If you want to parse it down a bit for an actual debate then lets do it.

"You can't blame anyone for doing something you did yourself so it's a moot point."

Are you saying supporting Saddam in his war against Iran is the same as taking money to support a Saddams regime recently?

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #23 on:** March 11, 2005, 03:39:36 PM »

I'm saying the dictator, the regime and his actions were exactly the same. And that's all I'm going to say on the subject at this point.

Fine enough?

Raider179 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 11, 2005, 03:39:44 PM »

Sounds like they just made an attempt to bolster their case for political Asylum. Or do they just let anyone stay in europe?

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #25 on:** March 11, 2005, 03:42:37 PM »

Sometimes it feels like that Raider. For example Sweden has quite big problems with all the 'material' they've accepted there.

It's said that there are quite many semi-active al-khaeda groups as refugees in Sweden at this time. The SAPO is tracking them, but Swedish police is notoriously inefficient.

Skydancer · « **Reply #26 on:** March 11, 2005, 05:48:29 PM »

Well wether or not America came late into WW2 we sure appreciated the help when it came.

Though remember the fact that Britain stood alone for three years against the rest of the axis. Fought bloody hard against overwhelming odds and suffered destruction that the US is lucky enough not to have suffered on its homeland. So that when the US did finaly did join the right side they had somewhere to launch the war in Europe from. Any chance of this being recognised on this board just once in a while?

Fact without Britain and her ( at the time ) Colonies,Canada Australia, New Zealand, India etc there wouldn't have been a WW2 for you guys to fight!

But hey our fathers and forefathers salute yours as does anyone else here with a sense of their own history and justice.

Toad · « **Reply #27 on:** March 11, 2005, 05:51:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Skydancer
Any chance of this being recognised on this board just once in a while?

Zulu7, I'll assume you mean recognized by US posters.

I'd say the chance is about equal to the chance of the US getting credit for anything from the Euro posters.

Funny how what goes around, comes around.

Skydancer · « **Reply #28 on:** March 11, 2005, 06:00:13 PM »

I think you'll find that I did give the US credit in my last post!

I quote myself!

"Well wether or not America came late into WW2 we sure appreciated the help when it came"

"But hey our fathers and forefathers salute yours as does anyone else here with a sense of their own history and justice."

Oh and we are not Euro's we are British!

So quit the sour grapes and give credit where its due huh? It would be a nice gesture.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #29 on:** March 11, 2005, 06:04:53 PM »

You wish Britain to have credit for for standing againt the Germans from 39 to 42ish? Sure, they entered a war and fought it. What other credit is there?