Author Topic: So here we go again.... (Read 1579 times)

mars01 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 14, 2005, 07:54:20 AM »

If you guys actually took the base after dropping the FHrs I could almost live with it, but honestly 9 out of 10 times some lone buff or two sees a fight, has no idea what the status is, where the goon is or anything else and just b lines for the FHrs. Then 15 mins later the base is still in enemy hands and the only thing this hero did was stop the guys that had a nice fight going. And like Tex said since the FHrs are gone so is your cap and your hopes for getting the base.

Virg the cap stays as long as they have the gas. Every time I am over a base with a cap and everyone knows the goon is enroute, not one person leaves. I will gaurantee that once I see the FHrs go down I leave the next second. Honestly it has gotten so bad that I have stopped shooting ack and unless I know a goon is in bound, I don't clear bombers that are over the field.

Like I mentioned earlier, back in AHI people took bases with pride and style. The fighter hangers were only dropped as a last resort. People relied on the skills of the group not the ease of killing the FHrs. Many of us log on for the action, not to watch bombers go from field to field doing hanger dropping displays.

Scutt your dead on, until you have to go above 8k. We see a lot of posts from the heros up there that say they are looking for good fights at alt. That they are flying realistically. Funny thing is, every time I get tired of reversing the same ole Perch sitting, cherry picking, 51, LA7, 190, Typhoon running, couldn't fight their way out of tissue bag or lesbian bar

types I go to about 15K and troll around the perches. Almost every time these guys merge and see they are in trouble they dive strait to the deck. Not one shot gets fired. The only fight up there is trying to fight myself from falling asleep.

ENY does work, it sucks when you get hit with it, but it does work. And as dred said ENY wasn't ment to stop the hordes, it was meant to stop total country imbalance.

lazs2 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 14, 2005, 08:10:26 AM »

jakal.. welcome to the darks side (bout time)..

I have allways said that fields that fell easier but were clower together would be a lot more fun for the guys who like to fight.

I think HT is balancing things so that the newbie or person who doesn't own a joystick or those born without any hand eye coordination will pay to play also.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

Jackal1 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2005, 08:17:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
One other problem with not taking down the fighter hangars. Once the enemy quits lifting to be vulched, 90% of the cap leaves looking for more easy kills, and then the enemy gets up again.

Since I have no way of knowing who you are flying with I certainly can`t argue with your experiences, but what I can say, and have seen is quite the opposite in the fact that you have 20 to 30 flying around scatching various parts of their bodies and telling jokes because........well with the FHs down there is nothing much to do.
I agree totaly on taking down the VH if you are trying to take the base. That`s just it. From what I have been witnessing, probaly 85 to 90% of the time the VH is left standing, but the FHs are taken down immediately upon arrival. Also , as of late, in a lot of these brave attacks there is not even a goon otw or has one been called for.
If someone is so desperate for bomber points as this there are towns, GV bases, factories, etc to hit and as I mentioned before you can also fly resupply and do the same thing.

Vudak · « **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2005, 08:19:34 AM »

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Originally posted by mars01

Scutt your dead on, until you have to go above 8k. We see a lot of posts from the heros up there that say they are looking for good fights at alt. That they are flying realistically. Funny thing is, every time I get tired of reversing the same ole Perch sitting, cherry picking, 51, LA7, 190, Typhoon running, couldn't fight their way out of tissue bag or lesbian bar types I go to about 15K and troll around the perches. Almost every time these guys merge and see they are in trouble they dive strait to the deck. Not one shot gets fired. The only fight up there is trying to fight myself from falling asleep.

(Thanks for the sig material btw, it pretty much sums it up!)

Kutt · « **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2005, 08:42:42 AM »

Smaller maps, fewer bases, and TOUGHER bases.

The way it is now 90% of the bases are completely unused on most maps. The population is spread out thin, and bases can be porked fairly easily by a few pilots with adept mud moving talents.

The maps need to be reduced in size drastically. The maps should provide target rich environments. There should be danger associated with any bombing run. Bases should be able to take a good pounding, and when they fall it should be a big deal.

When Field 147345 is captured... nobody cares. We got a 1/2 a million more of them bases, and I'm in the tower (yes I die a lot) given the map a scroll massage desperately trying to find the next big scrap. Knowing full well by the time I up, and burn a 1/2 a tank a gas to get to the fight, it will likely be over by the time I get there.

I would just prefer shorter flight times between my next spectacular debacle, and that I could spend more time dieing in the same area.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 14, 2005, 08:46:24 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
jakal.. welcome to the darks side (bout time)..

I have allways said that fields that fell easier but were clower together would be a lot more fun for the guys who like to fight.

I think HT is balancing things so that the newbie or person who doesn't own a joystick or those born without any hand eye coordination will pay to play also.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

Heehee.
I`ve always been and still am mainly an "attack" type player. Like I`ve said many times before usualy it turns out that I am attacking for denial and mainly because a lot will not counter attack , etc, but instead are too busy being bent over looking for the soap.
The thing about it is I like to see a good battle for a base. That`s what makes things a hoot. Instead of this I am seeing swarms take down the FHs, kill any chance of a battle , then just fly around in circles playing grab butt with each other. I just don`t see where the pleasure is derived from looking like Barnum and Bailey has just rolled into town.

I`m also seeing lots of missions that make no sense at all to me. I saw a few lately that have blown me away. One that`s been ran a few times has spots for 50 forms of 24s. It has been promoted with " See what 150 24s can do to a base". No goon, no intent to capture, etc.

Howitzer · « **Reply #21 on:** March 14, 2005, 09:09:26 AM »

I've seen these hordes... you have an alternative, and that is to fly away from them

Sometimes when there isn't a good fight around, the guys in my squad will up in a fighter of choice, and go to a base with little activity and just beat the heck out of it. We'll leave the FHs up and just cap it for a while. This is like poking a hornet's nest with stick. Eventually we will RTB, and out they come... Good furball for the next hour or so

Oh, and there was an analogy above comparing dropping FHs to "quake mentality". I don't know if you guys play many first person shooter games, but I'd like to make you aware you are playing one now, except your wittle quake guy is strapped into a WWII fighter plane to get him from point A to point B. What this game needs is more quake mentality. There is no capturing anything, just spawn, kill a guy, kill another guy, catch a rocket right in the grill, respawn and do it again. No FHS, no VH, no town, no silly planes without guns. Kill as many as you can before you die (cus you are gonna), reup and do it all over again.

Long live the furball!!!!

mars01 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 14, 2005, 09:36:03 AM »

Whooo hooooo I made a sig lol, thanks Vud.

Lol Howitzer you always seem to crack me up.

That is a good way to get the fur going, then some hero sees a large group going at it and thinks, boy I could help these guys out and kill the hangers, then they wouldn't have to keep fighting those pesky enemy planes. LOLH.

Howitzer · « **Reply #23 on:** March 14, 2005, 09:45:56 AM »

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Originally posted by mars01
Whooo hooooo I made a sig lol, thanks Vud.

Lol Howitzer you always seem to crack me up.

That is a good way to get the fur going, then some hero sees a large group going at it and thinks, boy I could help these guys out and kill the hangers, then they wouldn't have to keep fighting those pesky enemy planes. LOLH.

LOL EXACTLY what happens.

Or when there is a 50 plane furball going on, and right in the middle of it, you look up and see 2 sets of b24s heading to the enemy base at 15k... You know the furball is about to end

mechanic · « **Reply #24 on:** March 14, 2005, 10:46:54 AM »

the only way to start a furball now is to blow the hell out of someone's precious base, RTB reeal quick, and come back to fight the angry toolshed guys who's base you jusst bombed.

send in a wave of bombers with some escort. take out their base completely.

next you have to deffend against the alt monkeys for 15 mins.

then, when the base comes back up thousands of horders will lift and you have your fur.

other than that you just have to look hard for where this is already happening or hope to god a CV pulls up offshore near your base and no idiot manages to sink it within 5 mins of the first fight.

furball underground is the only way.

dedalos · « **Reply #25 on:** March 14, 2005, 11:29:04 AM »

Ya know, if you are going to take the base, I mean if you have a C47 on the way, then I am fine with it. Kill the FH vulch me repeatedly, HO me every chance you get, etc. What I don't get is when 3 guys show up in F4U1-Cs, deack and vulch until I make it of the runway. Then, they all run to land their kills. Whats the point of that???? Even if score is what you are after, knowing how you achieved it should be embarashing to you.

Then sometimes, right in the midle of the vulch madnes, someone will drop the FHs. 15 mins later they back up and the base has not been taken. I had some one tell me sorry but I cannot let you up. I figured a goon was on the way so I upped a lala from a different field. When I got there the same guys sircling the field. One of the tempests got me and I gave up. 1 hour latter, no capture. Just vulching. Pointless.

The only way I am able to get a fight lattely is to up a P40 and stay below 5K. Everyone goes for it. I die a lot, but at list I get to play the game.

Aubrey · « **Reply #26 on:** March 14, 2005, 12:58:13 PM »

I spend some time in bombers. I do not drop fhs anymore during an attack on a base. I did when I started but, then I learned that it was 'frowned upon". I will up buffs if a base we are really trying to defend is getting hammered I will go to diffrent base up buffs ad see what I can do to take the pressure off.

Mostly now I drop VH and then go for town during take the base attack.

mars01 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 14, 2005, 01:09:04 PM »

Good Man Aubrey!!!

Lye-El · « **Reply #28 on:** March 14, 2005, 02:19:25 PM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
What I don't get is when 3 guys show up in F4U1-Cs, deack and vulch until I make it of the runway. Then, they all run to land their kills. Whats the point of that????

Well, I think it's a flaw of Aces High. There are no parked aircraft all lined up for them to fight.

Therefore, the closest thing is to shoot an aircraft sitting on the runway for their "Combat Kills", and get the WTG for landing 8 kills.

They probably had to go up in shirt size for their puffed up chests when they tell Mommy "I'm a great fighter pilot."

Either that or you just scared 'em once you went wheels up............everyone knows that fighters are not near as scarey if the wheels are down.

jaxxo · « **Reply #29 on:** March 14, 2005, 02:33:38 PM »

I could care less about people vulching when capturing a base. Its the serial vulcher who sees the horde rolling..grabs dora..gets 6 kills and runs home without so much as straffing an ack that irritates me..for them the challenge is can they top the 5 kill vulch run they just landed (not enuff wtg's if ya land less than previous sortie)