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Offline Jackal1

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« on: March 13, 2005, 09:03:58 PM »
Sunday afternoon , a few flights, a few laughs , etc.......Then Sunday night U.S. time approaches.............
Enter the hordes. It`s expected and is the norm. You up somewhere and head out, then out of nowhere here comes the something resembling the assembly at Woodstock. OK, it`s something that has to be tolerated on weekend nights. That`s understood. So you got 25 to 30 friendlies over an NME base. The fight should be ON. "Should be" being the key words here. BOOM...down goes the FHs. What kind of lame crap is this? If you go to all the trouble of getting that many people together, why the hell kill the FHs? Did ya come for a family picnic or what? What`s the use of it? You got all the peeps flying around pickin their noses, scratching whatever needs scratching, with nothing to do. No fight, no fun, just LAME.
  The most amazing thing to me is on our team we have peeps like Fish who flood the text channel with "this part of the game is BS" .."that part of the game is BS" "What xxxx did is just plain BS".. "HT sucks for modeling ." ....over and over and over. Same for here on the BBS, but will proudly announce " ALL FHs DOWN XXX".  
  What`s the deal? These folks skeeert or what?
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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2005, 09:22:58 PM »
Smart people kill both the fighter hangars and the vehicle hangars when attempting to take a base. If I'm running a base taking attack, the fighter hangars go right after the vehicle hangars. I don't want that one lucky enemy fighter who gets clear of the runway killing my C-47 pilot.

Regarding the "hordes", I thought ENY limits were going to stop the hordes :rolleyes: .

Regarding the whines, well, maybe HTC overmodelled the whines.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2005, 09:54:07 PM »
I think he's joking around.  At least for his sake, I hope he's joking around.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2005, 10:02:21 PM »
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Smart people kill both the fighter hangars and the vehicle hangars when attempting to take a base.  


How smart can it be if you have 25 to 30 fighters over a base , with no NME up to take down the FHs?
  What`s the point? Quake mentality or what?
You take out any chance of a fight and you have peeps running around scratchin their nads with nothing to do .
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2005, 10:05:45 PM »
Welcome to the darkside Jack, this game has left anyone looking for a good fight in the dust.  It is all about what is safe and how to take fields.

At least in AHI the war guys had balls and would let us cap.  Now it's the safety dance.

no offence virg
« Last Edit: March 14, 2005, 08:15:58 AM by mars01 »

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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2005, 10:16:49 PM »
Yea, that`s what i mean. I`m a totaly bananas attack guy. I usualy get off on attack for denial purposes more than anything when nobody else either can`t or won`t get in, but damn if if I can see where taking all chance of a good battle for a base can be any fun for 25 to 30 peeps flying around with no chance of a fight can be fun.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2005, 10:18:09 PM »
Well the way I have seen Bases Been Capped they better take down all FH  BH And VH. If I had a Dollar for ever goon that I was Killed in with 15 or 20 Around I could play AH for Free for about a Year >):D


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PS You also forgot the Strat Porkers. Love taking a Field just to find out Ammo And Troops Porked:aok
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2005, 10:23:24 PM »
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Well the way I have seen Bases Been Capped they better take down all FH  BH And VH. If I had a Dollar for ever goon that I was Killed in with 15 or 20 Around I could play AH for Free for about a Year >):D


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PS You also forgot the Strat Porkers. Love taking a Field just to find out Ammo And Troops Porked:aok


Oh yea, I agree with ya there also. When you give the 25 to 30 wannabe Pappy`s a chance for a fight things seems to fall apart.
As far as the ammo and troops being porked.... Nobody hardly ever resusps anymore due to the " we have to get to the next horde operation" mentality.
 I can`t understand this either due to the fact that most of these guys are seeking safety and the possiblity of gleaning some tidbit of score from the horde stuff. Resup=good score, is fun to do and helps promote your team`s overall status.
I`ll take down strat in hearbeat such as ord, etc simply because of what you stated. I`ve seen the "supposed" cap over a field go to crap over a couple of NME when they are outnumbered 20 to 1 simply because if there is a battle these same guys don`t seem to no how to deal with it.
I`ll also reup when nobody else does.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2005, 10:27:38 PM by Jackal1 »
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2005, 03:06:05 AM »
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How smart can it be if you have 25 to 30 fighters over a base , with no NME up to take down the FHs?
  What`s the point? Quake mentality or what?
You take out any chance of a fight and you have peeps running around scratchin their nads with nothing to do .


Sorry but this is a joke is it?

If you have more than 6 fighters over a base anyone trying to up will get vulched or cherry picked before hes at 100feet agl. The only moment where he gets through is murphys law when the goon comes. Eaven then he doesnt make it to more than shooting down the goon before he gets blasted into pieces.

With 20 fighters over the base there is no fight against the people that up there, if there is any fight then from guys that come in with altitude from another base.

When the fighter hangars are down there is a remote chance that some of the fighters trying to vulch will take down the left over town buildings.

Apart from that with tons of people online on weekend evenings its hard to find a decent fight because either its 20 friendlys against one enemy or 30 enemys against 2 friendlies. I found the best solution for me being to fly for a location where 1 or 2 enemy worth of dar bar and no friendlies are, takes a bit of searching till you find an enemy but mostly possible.

Alternative is to climb to 20k and cruise about to find someone, thats pretty historic as in ww2 a lot of sorties the pilots would not eaven encounter an enemy.

Of course, when you want instant action and tons of low ducks to shoot at it is hard to find. Fly right into the biggest furball and get a uncontrolled situation with tons of enemys and friends.

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2005, 04:07:07 AM »
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Quake mentality or what?


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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2005, 04:18:36 AM »
Problem with the scenario that Jackal is pointing at is that once the FHs are down and the "action" is gone the hoard runners go away...

This means that there are 25 planes there.. town doesnt get worked... goons get there... town is up and so are FHs and no cap left because the hoard got boored and left...

What I think is more effective AND more fun is if the bombers drop the eggs on the town. I mean with 25 planes around and town more then 50% up then you dont neeed FHs down..

Kill the VH, Kill the town and when goons are getting close then drop the FH. That way you ensure the CAP is there and doesnt leave due to booredom.

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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2005, 05:50:35 AM »
Smaller maps fewer bases = bigger fights. That would be the answer. I think.

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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2005, 06:21:35 AM »
One other problem with not taking down the fighter hangars. Once the enemy quits lifting to be vulched, 90% of the cap leaves looking for more easy kills, and then the enemy gets up again. About this time, the C-47 and troops arrive only to be killed before they get to the town. Like I said, if you want to take a base, kill the vehicle hangars and then the fighter hangars.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2005, 06:45:45 AM »
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Smaller maps fewer bases = bigger fights. That would be the answer. I think.


Fewer bases + same sized weekend horde = huge swarms everywhere = less fighting, more vulching


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Apart from that with tons of people online on weekend evenings its hard to find a decent fight because either its 20 friendlys against one enemy or 30 enemys against 2 friendlies. I found the best solution for me being to fly for a location where 1 or 2 enemy worth of dar bar and no friendlies are, takes a bit of searching till you find an enemy but mostly possible.



Ditto. Find a lone raider (easier to do on a big map, even with horde on board), and hav some fun.
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2005, 07:45:09 AM »
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Regarding the "hordes", I thought ENY limits were going to stop the hordes :rolleyes: .
 


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Eny or no Eny

A horde
is a horde
is a horde
Death is no easy answer
For those who wish to know
Ask those who have been before you
What fate the future holds
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