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« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2005, 01:00:10 PM »
So what if China takes Taiwan? It's their business and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it if they do decide to take it today,tomorrow or in 10 years from now.

Some of you have such a blind obsessed view of China it's quite amazing.


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« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2005, 01:06:11 PM »
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So what if China takes Taiwan? It's their business and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it if they do decide to take it today,tomorrow or in 10 years from now.


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I don't have much of a view of China at all really. I'm just interested in the debate over weather or not they could take Taiwan.

I'm not real sure I believe that Taiwan is China's business though. I believe Taiwan should be free from China.

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« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2005, 01:11:13 PM »
You know what the sad thing about China is to me? It's that the US has historically been a friend of China.

The Chinese are good people and they have a pretty peaceful history. It's sad that they are under the hand of oppressive communism.

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« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2005, 01:32:24 PM »
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So what if China takes Taiwan? It's their business and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do about it if they do decide to take it today,tomorrow or in 10 years from now.

Some of you have such a blind obsessed view of China it's quite amazing.


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true,

and some have blind egotistical know-it-all opinions at well, but we are not complaining about you.
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« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2005, 01:52:05 PM »
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Why are you sick that things are make in China?

I'd be sick if things were made in Poland, but China makes some good stuff when told exactly how to manufacture a western product.

Poland is a lost cause.


how many jobs where lost by this in US?
how many companies move out to china from US
is that not hit you, your relatives?
its not about Poland its about US

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« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2005, 02:28:06 PM »
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how many jobs where lost by this in US?
how many companies move out to china from US
is that not hit you, your relatives?
its not about Poland its about US


So, are you saying that China doesn't deserve or shouldn't be allowed  to manufacture or sell anything for the US?

Global economy baby!

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« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2005, 02:47:34 PM »
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There is not going to be an invasion of Taiwan.  The Chinese won't risk it, the Taiwanese can not afford it, and the US will just continue to control the situation through the relationship China has with us.
That really depends on the US & Taiwan. The current US "let's annoy the Chinese" 'diplomatic' policy of joining with the oh-so hated Japanese to defend Taiwanese independence is the most likely reason for the secession law that was passed: it is a diplomatic finger to the US. And a reminder that the PRC always does stuff the way it wants to, however much other countries like to think they hold influence over it.

It is also a line in the sand, however, because they're quite serious about the law too: they will invade if they think they have to, and they'll probably win because at the end of the day, Taiwan is the size of Delaware & Maryland, with a population of 22 million, and China is huge with a population of 1,300 million and the US lacks the kind of political will (and at present, possibly the manpower) to defend it. The PRC on the other hand will persue it if it thinks it has to and won't stop: in their eyes it is a domestic issue and nothing to do with anyone outside of China.

With a UNSC veto, there'll be no outcry from the UN, so a UN task-force is out of the question, and Taiwan is recognized only as a province of China, so as far as the UN charter goes it is - as the PRC always points out - a domestic affair, a issue entirely within Chinese sovereignty.

So on balance, you're off the mark: the Chinese will definitely risk it, the Taiwanese might just risk it too: it's really only the US that might not. As for the Japanese - well I'm not sure - I have an inkling they would almost definitely fold ASAP: China is more important to them than the US, economically-speaking, and they are far too close to China and her nuclear weapons to risk it. In a nuclear exchange, the US would lose a few ships - the Japanese have to live there.
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« Reply #52 on: March 14, 2005, 02:59:18 PM »
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so a UN task-force is out of the question,


Without the US, can there even be a UN task force?

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« Reply #53 on: March 14, 2005, 02:59:39 PM »
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You know what the sad thing about China is to me? It's that the US has historically been a friend of China.


Do you wipe after you post?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalist_China#History
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« Reply #54 on: March 14, 2005, 03:03:47 PM »
Yeah, what about when the U.S. actually FOUGHT the Chinese during the Korean War?  The Chinese pushed (pushed is such a sanitized word, how about  "killed/forced to retreat") U.S. troops back to the 38th parallel from the Yalu River.

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« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2005, 03:06:42 PM »
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Yeah, what about when the U.S. actually FOUGHT the Chinese during the Korean War?  The Chinese pushed (pushed is such a sanitized word, how about  "killed/forced to retreat") U.S. troops back to the 38th parallel from the Yalu River.


The US was not allowed to attack China directly, yet we were fighting the full strenght of the Chinese anyway, with hands tied. We could have whiped out China if we wanted.

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« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2005, 03:10:18 PM »
The only card the U.S. had to play was atomic weapons.  Our troops were still using surplus WW2 equipment, and fighting troops were being depleted rapidly.  Also, B29s wouldnt have been able to fly over China.  They couldnt even fly over North Korea.

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« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2005, 03:14:37 PM »
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Do you wipe after you post?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalist_China#History


Do you have a brain that can produce an original, pot influenced thought?

What point are you trying to make by posting that link?

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« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2005, 03:16:32 PM »
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Our troops were still using surplus WW2 equipment, and fighting troops were being depleted rapidly.  Also, B29s wouldnt have been able to fly over China.  They couldnt even fly over North Korea.




What  equipment was China using??  :lol

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« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2005, 03:18:15 PM »
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Do you have a brain that can produce an original, pot influenced thought?

What point are you trying to make by posting that link?


Your posts are akin to taking a rorschach dump on the keyboard, squishing it around, and contemplating which animal it looks like.

Educate yourself with that link.  If you're still stumped, I'll manually point out your ignorance.
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