Author Topic: Setup For Friday 3-25-05 (Read 1036 times)

TrueKill · « **on:** March 23, 2005, 08:22:31 PM »

Battle of the Rhine early '45

Hitler is considering his last options as the Allies pour into Germany from the north east and west. America makes a huge push into the Rhine trying to get to Berlin before Russia. Britian lends a hand by providing a few fighter squadrons. The feared Me-262 is known to be near the front lines.

Germany

Ar 234b
Ju-88A-4
Bf 109G-6
Bf 109G-10
Bf 110G-2
Fw 190A-5
Fw 190A-8
Fw 190D-9
Fw 190F-8
Ta 152H**
Me 262A-1**
Me 163**
Panzer
Tiger
Ostie
M-3

British& Canadian

Lancaster*
C-47
Mosquito Mk. VI
Spitfire XVIE (sub XIV)
Typhoon
Tempest
Sherman (sub T-34)

USAAF

C-47
B-17*
B-24*
B-26
P-51D
P-47D-40
P-38L
M-24 (Panzer)
Sherman (T-34)
M-3
M-16
M-8

Arena Settings
Field capture: 15 troops
Dar: historical
Perk points: enabled
Downtimes: Hangars 1 hour, AAA 20 minutes.

Notes:
* Long-range RCAF and USAAF bombers at rear fields.
** All Luftwaffe aircraft that are perked at limited fields that fall into enemy hands will be come available to allied pilots.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2005, 11:26:06 PM »

1 question.............perks on Tiger and Tempest? Assuming yes but...........hate assuming.

Nice setup btw.

TrueKill · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2005, 11:53:30 PM »

Yes perks on the perked planes and GV, but not that much. 262s ganna be about 15-25 nothing more then that.

Grits · « **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2005, 11:53:52 PM »

Where is the Hurricane mkI?!!?!!11!?

TrueKill · « **Reply #4 on:** March 23, 2005, 11:55:12 PM »

Thats the week after Me163s and Me262s vs. Spit MkI and Hurri MkI

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2005, 12:14:56 AM »

It makes no sense to give the allies the perked LW planes. It would have been insane for an allied pilot to fly them in combat as you propose.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2005, 12:29:37 AM »

I dont see anything wrong with it. Sure in RL the allied pilots wouldnt have had much of a chance getting a 262 in the air let alone fly one, not without some testing and examining. But then this isnt RL either.

With the buffs enabled at rear bases only, and 15 troops for a base capture, I really dont think its going to be an issue anyway. If they do manage to capture a 262 base, let em fly jets as a little reward perk for managing the feat. Some jet vs jet battles would be just the thing to break up the monotony of the same old same old.

Personally, I think this is one of the things the CT needs to decide for its future. To be a rigid, historical or bust type arena? Or to be quasi-historical with fairly accurate planesets but not set in stone, and the ability to stretch reality a bit more type?

As our current planes are updated, and new planes are added, and more models of current planes are added, and new maps are added..............we are going to have more choices to work with, and that means even more flexibility. To me, the CT should be about getting people to fly planes they dont fly in the MA, and make the matchups as balanced and fun as possible. Just because we are different than the MA doesnt mean we have to be opposites. Just because it didnt happen in RL doesnt mean we have to brand it as impossible.

I understand the gripe, I'm just sayin lighten up a little and go with the flow. If it doesnt work, it doesnt work. Its not the end of the world.

TrueKill · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2005, 12:54:29 AM »

If I could id make it with all planes. Like say allies take a base theyd have 190s and 109s but only about 4-5 of each. If you up one and crash thats one less capured plane. If you land it then the number of planes stay the same. I think that would be fun. But I dont think you can do that, but I may be wrong.

[EDIT] Oh BTW we've had this setup before and allied players didnt take a perked plane base. If they do this time then it might make the axis players work extra hard to take it back.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2005, 12:59:13 AM »

Lets have some cool postwar scenarios like we did before. The soccer wars of south america in the 1960s featured some great WW2 fighter vs WW2 fighter combats.

allmetal · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2005, 07:50:32 AM »

anybody have a map that shows canadan?I can`t seem to find it on any of mine.

TrueKill · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2005, 07:58:19 AM »

shut up AM

Slash27 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2005, 09:23:26 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Lets have some cool postwar scenarios like we did before. The soccer wars of south america in the 1960s featured some great WW2 fighter vs WW2 fighter combats.

People griped all week during that one. But the numbers were high everynight:D it wouldnt be out of the question Grun.

Löwe · « **Reply #12 on:** March 24, 2005, 09:52:23 AM »

Hey TK.

I don't think you should enable any of the jets for the Allies. If Allied pilots don't want to fight jets , they are going to have to knock out the bases period.
Save the jet to jet combat for a setup like Grunz mentioned. Just my 2 cents.

Grits · « **Reply #13 on:** March 24, 2005, 11:09:16 AM »

I have liked all the "what if" and post WW2 setups, and I wouldnt mind seeing more. The '48 Independance thing was the only one I wasnt crazy about, SpitV vs Spit IX all week gets old, but even it was OK every so often.

I think my idea from a while back, "Stalin's Surprize", which the premise is the Soviets enter the war against Japan in '44 instead of August '45, would be a decent "what if" set. It would be La5, La7, Yak9T, Yak9U (and some bombers) against A6M5, Ki61, Ki84, Niki (and some bombers). I think it is not all THAT much of a stretch to think Stalin might have attacked Japan in Mongolia/Korea and I think the planes would play out pretty even for both sides. GV's might be a problem since the IJA basically had no tanks of any real merit, so they might have to be left out.

Only problem is we dont really have a map even close to that area.

Sabre · « **Reply #14 on:** March 24, 2005, 12:28:13 PM »

I began work on a story a while back who's basic premise was that the Western Allies get into it with the USSR after Germany is defeated. I think that would make a great what-if scenario. One feature would be that the USSR captures most of the Me163 and 262 production in their half of Germany, while the Allies capture the Arado production. Or perhaps each side could capture some of every German type. As in the case of Italy, German forces could end up fighting for both sides, and even against themselves. In real life, there were a number of incidents where Western Allied forces engaged USSR forces in short little engagements as the two sides met up in Germany. Most were the results of mistaken identity, but a few were the result of active mistrust between East and West.