Author Topic: get rid of or Perk the La7!!!!!!!!!! (Read 3095 times)

Longdist · « **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2005, 10:50:21 AM »

Hunt them in a P-40, they're suckers for it and it works every time. The other alturnitive is to just through a rock.

Pongo · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2005, 10:51:54 AM »

Yup. lets get perked load outs so the La7 B20 can follow the F4u Hizooka into a light perk status where it belongs.

Also the performance we have on the La7 is near optimal, in an aircraft that was more prone to being sub optimal then most.

Anyone that says the 2 guns is the same as the 3 guns doesnt know much about how fighters work. It has 50% more weight of fire. 50% more lethality.
When you are improving something 50% at no cost to the real perfomance of the plane its a pretty big deal.

rod367th · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2005, 10:55:36 AM »

if the la7 was such a bad plane how come it wup the 2 p51's that it fought in ww2. 51's had alt and E advantage, while la7 pilot didn't fire untill 4 passes were made on him. so I guess it was really bad plane.

What I'm trying to say in short is its not the plane. Its the pilot But some will whine about guys running away when they are at a disadvantage. While guys like some of you whine about guy running away aka extending. Lots of us laugh at the guy that whines. It tells us your on his 6 in a better turn fighter, and Are mad that he's not stupid enough to turn fight you. So you think if you whine others will think guys are afraid of you. Trust me your only fooling yourself.

I for one could care less what or how others fly. I don't care if others all fly 262's its more fun to kill a 262 with il2 or a20 to the p40. Just more fun to me......................

Swager · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2005, 11:08:50 AM »

INsider review concurs

GunnerCAF · « **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2005, 11:27:18 AM »

If you can deal with LA7s, you need some training. Ask the trainer about ENERGY, and you will learn the ways to keep out of the sights of LA7s.

The LA7 is fast, but if you retain your energy, you can get out of it's range even with planes that have a slower top speed. LA7s have a small ammo load, and they have cannons. They are not going to be doing much spraying at long distance, so keep out of their range.

You will mostly find LA7s in close defence of an enemy fields at low altitudes.

If you hate them so much, take this information and find a way to hunt them down and kill them. This is a game.

humble · « **Reply #20 on:** March 25, 2005, 11:31:42 AM »

I'm constantly amazed at how often you hear the "perk this..." whine. Yes the la-7 is an outstanding airplane, however its got its limitations in both range and performance at higher alts. Additionally its only a marginally better performer than the La-5 overall.

1 on 1 the lala isnt any better than the guy flying it. In a horde its just one of a bunch of fast planes. The D-9, tiffie, G-10 and pony all have similiar speed. The pony & G-10 can E/angles fight well in good hands and the tiffie has the ability to reach out and ruin your day at ~800 or more....

Personally the hurricane is the biggest problem in the game:)...basically just a HO machine in the hands of 90% of those who fly it....things a flying porcupine:)

If you think the lala's the be all end all then fire one up and go play...

Magoo · « **Reply #21 on:** March 25, 2005, 11:45:07 AM »

I hate the La7 too, but only because it has such a tiny fuel tank and I go bingo gas before I even think to look at the guage...oh and it hates rudder input at low speeds (too much time in a Jug on my part).

Magoo

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #22 on:** March 25, 2005, 12:57:36 PM »

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Originally posted by GunnerCAF
If you can deal with LA7s, you need some training. Ask the trainer about ENERGY, and you will learn the ways to keep out of the sights of LA7s.

The LA7 is fast, but if you retain your energy, you can get out of it's range even with planes that have a slower top speed. LA7s have a small ammo load, and they have cannons. They are not going to be doing much spraying at long distance, so keep out of their range.

You will mostly find LA7s in close defence of an enemy fields at low altitudes.

If you hate them so much, take this information and find a way to hunt them down and kill them. This is a game.

Im sorry but I have to disagree with most of what you have said here..

The la7 does not have a small ammo load.. Perhaps medium? But it's guns are extremely leathal..

Also, there is not much in this game that will beat the La7 in an energy fight.. The la7 will simply zoom with or out-zoom any of it's competition..

Kutt · « **Reply #23 on:** March 25, 2005, 01:00:01 PM »

I think it is a question of perception.

Good pilots know how to wring all of the performance they can out what ever plane they are in. A great P-40 pilot can easily over come a nugget La-7 driver. That can easily be proven.

The perception is that there are alot of La-7's in the air most of the time in the MA. If a plane becomes too numerous I think it is time to perk it.

The reason for the perk is not because it meets certain thresholds of performance. The reason to perk it is to promote the perception of variety in the arena.

Each aircraft brings it's own unique capabilities to a fight. Knowing your enemy and choosing the appropriate tactics is a fun/interesting skill to perfect. If the perception is that you are always fighting the same type of enemy, boredom sets in if you can deal with the threat. Frustration sets in if you can't. Either way it ends up being a negative for all involved.

wetrat · « **Reply #24 on:** March 25, 2005, 02:13:28 PM »

grats... you're an idiot.

eilif · « **Reply #25 on:** March 25, 2005, 02:17:27 PM »

i never have problems with la7's, you never find decent sticks behind em anyways, there needs to be some uber planes out there for the meak. just dont waste time chasing lalas.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 25, 2005, 02:33:05 PM »

There's something satisfying about chopping down LA7s.

I'm a lousy stick but I'm up 18 kills to 11 deaths vs LA7s in my 38G, and if someone as lousy as me can get the better of em, then most folks should be able to.

I tend to always be low and slow turning on the deck in a furball too, where the LA7s are racing in and out trying to blast me in the face.

I see Niki's just about as often.

Dan/CorkyJr

ALF · « **Reply #27 on:** March 25, 2005, 05:12:37 PM »

I refer you to the link to my movie below...entitled NEW LA7 VIDEO....the move is called "Deal with it"

I actually used to fly the La7 quite regularly(3 years ago), and it was a sweet ride, issue now is the good pilots know its limitations and exploit them very well. My trip back last month gave me insite into the new balistics and the La7....its one deadly ride....but so are many of the MA planes.

Your in deeper dookie if I fly my P51 or P47 than an La7.....heck dont even think about getting me in a SPit BWAHAHAHAHA!

Kutt · « **Reply #28 on:** March 25, 2005, 05:17:51 PM »

It seems to me that the main purpose of perks is to keep a diverse set of planes flying in the arena.

Case in point, when the MA went down a few nights ago and everyone rolled over to the back up arena with free planes, it turned into jet night.

The La-7 isn't unstoppable by any means. I'm a crappy pilot, I fly a 47 usually, and even I manage to break even on them.

Are there too many of them up is the question?

I think there probably are, but it doesn't keep me awake at night. If you are really serious about getting them perked start flying them all the time. Enough people fly them, I think it will go the same way as the C-Hog.

humble · « **Reply #29 on:** March 25, 2005, 06:04:58 PM »

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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
Im sorry but I have to disagree with most of what you have said here..

The la7 does not have a small ammo load.. Perhaps medium? But it's guns are extremely leathal..

Also, there is not much in this game that will beat the La7 in an energy fight.. The la7 will simply zoom with or out-zoom any of it's competition..

I'd say about 10% of the lala's are a "threat" the other 90% are just other targets (unless of course they're part of a hoard). Very few lala drivers fly them aggressively enough...