Another registered sex offender abducts another child

[FiLtH]

A walled in area behind the courthouse, a .44, and a floor drain.

[JB73]

Originally posted by GScholz
73, this is rather simple: Do you really think people that would rape and murder children are SANE? No, obviously they are mentally ill. Whether they are in America or not is inconsequential. They should be sentenced to psychiatric evaluation and treatment until such time as they are deemed safe for reintegration with society, even if that means that some will never be released. After someone has been released they should be followed up closely with regular checks/therapy.

GS it is rather simple....

the politics of america will not let it be that way.



there is no if ands or buts about it.



"criminally insaine" in the US means you walk free in 6 months, and thats only for ******* who legitimally hear voices in their heads.


child molesters here are considered a person who "likes their girls / boys young"

they get out in a MAXIMUM of 10 years (unless thye have already killed a few) then it's 20 years.

then then spend $100,000 taxpayer money to set them up in a house

it is going on here in milwaukee right NOW.. research the aritcles on http://www.jsonline.com (local newspaper website)

it is a problem of rights, not rational. the liberal community cares about rights PERIOD. not rational of the rights.

[JB73]

GS sorry bro, i hope you know im trying to show you the light here...



if these bastards were "fixed" in the nuthouse why do we have congress making laws about a registered offenders list to be published?


you know there are liberal groups who say that these so called sex offenders have a "right to privacy"? and oppose these lists?

there are child rapists living in almost every community, but unknown because the ACLU says they have a right to privacy.


the national database has over 100,000 listed, but there is a large portion with unknown whereabouts.



you see what i mean about "10 years and let them go"?


it's a sick country that panders to the lowest form. bleed their hearts for someone who "made a mistake and needs a chance", but the working person with moral values... they're just "predjuice"

[JB73]

Originally posted by GScholz
If they serve their time and are deemed safe by psychiatric professionals after therapy and/or drugs, do you see a reason not to let them return to society?

well, these last 2 "served their time", and the parole board "deemed them safe"


BTW, the last post by me was typed while you made you post....


to answer yuor question...


NO they should never be let out of a solitary cell alive.


they should be made to suffer they way they tortured their victims

[Airhead]

Originally posted by JB73
oh so airhead (fitting name) you support the release of molesters who have "paid their debt"?

oh wait, you think they should rot huh? let's see what the political party you agree too says about this....


you vote people into office who demand these monsters be set free and be given a chance in the local community, yet condem the actions of the monster who was let loose in your community.


talk about ******* hypocrate.

look into a mirror, ill bet you see a black void where your soul used to be.

No man, I'm an advocate of zero tolorance when it comes to pedophiles. As a matter of fact I am two things you are not- a husband and a parent- and I have never voted for a candidate running on the pro child molester ticket.

"look into a mirror, ill bet you see a black void where your soul used to be."

Nah man, I see a rapidly aging man who has raised his family and is getting older and older and has settled for finding the simpler pleasures in life. I'm never going to be a tycoon, the best I can hope to be is me- and I have a soul, and an inherent belief in the goodness of people. But I've experienced more than you ever have.

I'm sorry you're so pesimistic about life JB73. It's truly a gift and you can go through it controlling exactly how you feel, and you can do whatever you wish if you put your mind to it. You talk about self loathing but sheeesh, maybe you need to go easy on yourself dude and give yourself a break.

[JB73]

to be sent to the "nuthouse" here, you must be found "criminally inasine"

blame that on the liberal judges voted into office in the past 50 years.

"everyone must be given a chance" because of the F***** up interpretation of the bill of rights. it seems every year there is some new "twist" on the interpretation of the bill of rights being dealt with in the supreme court, or the state courts.


thats what all this anti / pro gun talk here is about. who's "twist" on the interpretation of the 2nd addmendant is right?


im sick of that ****.


also, GS im not sure if you are aware, but each state has it's own constituation, and stuff, and sex offenders are charged locally, NOT federally (unless they took the child over state lines before the crime AND it can be proven)

now state "A" has XX law in place, state "B" has "Y" law in place....

hell we have extradition fights in our own country. "joe schmoe murdered jane smith". he kidnapped her in state B, drove 30 miles and killed her in state "A"...

but in state "A", and there is death penalaty, AND no extradition to a state that DOES have extradition

was it a "capital crime"? well the local federal judge in the state of the crime commited decides.

if that local federal judge is liberal and is against capital punishment, well guess what he rules?


it is a mess that will never be solved, and i can only stick to my beliefs, morals, and feelings, and vote every chance i get to stop the "mess"


it is a sad state of affairs when a political cammpaign involves things other than what matters most. there is no hope for it, because next election the liberals will play the "iraq war" card in every place even down to the regional level, it will get people emotional about the election, and they will vote blindly on the major issues at hand that invlove their, and their families well being

over 1/2 the american public voted on the presidenal ellection yet less than 1/4 voted on the local items in the last 3 elections (in my community there have been 2 public votes since the presidental election and less than 1/8 the registered voters turned out)



see GS when you have opposing views there will always be a majority and a minority.

in the US lets take a public forum on a school referendum for example. the last public forum here in my community on a school referendum 95 people turned out. (there are 21,000 people in the city i live) of those 95, 91 were against the referendum. the local paper reported "majority opposes referendum"

the measure passed last election.

see in the US if you are for (or neutral) about somehting you don't go out of your way to get involveed with it, "others will"

if you are against somehitng you stand on a soap box and shout at the top of you lungs, "because someone has to"


what happened last election? the "silent majrity" won. look at the history of it, there would be no term for it if the "silent majority" wasn't around for a long long time.

sadly it is in the small elections, non publicized, that really make the changes in "middle america"

those "soap box" people drive out and try to make their difference, to help the "lesser folks", and the "silent majority" doesn't even go out, because they think "someone else will take care of it" (dont forget the 7/8 that didn't vote)




then we hear the complaining about everything..... this and that is wrong, and this from people who dont even care enough to go out and spend 5 minutes of their life trying to fix the problem.


sometimes i have no hope for this country






"good Christian morals", is a loose term.....

Christians stoned prostitues.

yes eye for an eye, but yet turn the other cheek

there is a fine line, and a complex dicussion about this ongoing in the Christian community...


there are "christians" who allow gay and lesbian pastors.... the LEADER of the faith in the local church!!!!?!?!?

who has the right answer about Christianity? well my personal belief is that God has given the Holy gift of interpretation to people, and a true Christian will know it ans recognize it when he see's it.

i saw it once, and understood.... that personwas pulled away from my community for another calling... but i watch for it still to return (though sinfully i do not seek it out activally like i should)

[JB73]

rgr that judicial AND election, refresh, i edited my post....

[Sandman]

Originally posted by midnight Target
So say you found out a sex offender lived on your block... what would you do?

Well... in this state, you can find this information easily.

http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/

[Lazerus]

Man. So much to say to so many different posts. Bear with me, I gotta go back and respond to each one, my memory ain't good enough to combine it all in one post.

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
There's no rehabilitation nor cure for child rapists. Period.

No other human behavior, that has been declared illegal, is treated in this manner or believed to be incurable, only sex offenses and offenders. Murder, robbery, car theft, drug offenses, etc., are all illegal, and those persons are considered to be "cured" upon completion of their punishment sentence.

Allowing for the masterful wordsmithery of legislatures, the inherent problem lies in the without the possibility of reoccurrence extension in the definition of "cure." This is the "magic pill" to make it go away and never return, ever again, belief; a hard and fast belief only and never spoken or written into law, just believed by all.

When dealing with the human body and/or mind, nothing can be "cured" to the "magic pill" standard, every human condition is subject to reoccurrence, excepting a condition where that part of the human body can be severed. Only then is the condition cured.

Name the condition, whatever it be, a doctor or psych will tell you, it is -possible- for it to return. There is no "magic pill" to "cure" and human condition so that it will never ever return. Holding sex offenders to a standard that is illogical and unattainable in a "magic pill" sense, is unconstitutional!

I know it's an unpopular position. I will qualify it by saying that I have a personal stake in any child molestation case(vagueness intended). I will also say that a friend of mine was caught having sex with a 17 year old girl. He is required to register as a sex offender. He was 18 when it happened.

Should he be required to announce to his new community that he is a sex offender??

I personaly know an individual that commited lewd acts on a minor. The last incidence was in 1990. He made concerted efforts to change whatever it was that ailed him, successfully.


next post coming soon

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by GScholz
I do however like to debate the issue.  

Originally posted by GScholz
Nazional Review is a great source of unbiased information.

I see no desire to debate anything. Instead of recognizing an editorial, you attack the publication that the editorial originates from. There is no such thing as an unbiased editorial.

The desire to debate an issue requires the understanding that others hold opinions that are not aligned with yours, and can be just as, if not more, valid.

The top quote is false, according to what I have seen you post.

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by JB73
i only hope everyone who voted for kerry has their child raped and murdered by a local registered sex offender, maybe THEN they'll see where that baby BS liberal agenda will get them

I hope you had too much to drink 73.

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by GScholz
I consider a person that would rape and murder a child very, very mentally ill. These extreme cases rarely get out of the institutions though, however they are not simply imprisoned for life. They are offered what treatment we have for their illness, as should be given to all people suffering from a mental illness. However if they are not safe for society they should not, and are not, released.

Agreed.

A person that would rape or murder anyone has to be mentally ill. How could any sane person commit such an act? Barring spontaneous acts of passion, the act of planning out and commiting such a crime (rape, murder, etc.) automatically puts a person in the 'mentally ill' catagory. That should not automatically exclude them from criminal punishment.

There is, and should be, a measure of mental illness to determine eligibility for the highest punishments allowed.

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by Maverick
Problem is, you don't debate. You ridicule, pontificate and berate. That is not a debate. Postulating an alternative or even a simple discussion asking questions is an arguement or discourse if you like. You don't do that, that is why you get the responses here that you see. It tends to make anything you say sound jaded and therefore inconsequential.

Refer to that quote a few posts up. Maverick said it better than I did.

[Holden McGroin]

What Maverick would have posted if he were [Jesse Jackson]
Problem is, you don't debate. You ridicule, berate and pontificate. If you like, an alternative you could postulate. Or even pose questions of an arguement you could relate. You don't do that, that is why you get the responses you tend to negate. It tends to make your replies sound jaded and therefore lack weight. [/Jesse Jackson]