Author Topic: RIP Terri Shiavo (Read 990 times)

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #30 on:** March 31, 2005, 09:13:26 PM »

Keep spouting your fake morality. You can't see the forrest for the trees and simply regurgitate whats spoon fed to you.

Brain functions akin to that of a venus fly trap are anything but human life.
-SW

Trell · « **Reply #31 on:** March 31, 2005, 09:19:39 PM »

Higher brain functions?

So that means she has less brain functions then an animal? closer to a plant.........

It was her time time, They just would not let her go.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #32 on:** March 31, 2005, 09:26:27 PM »

She had the brain functions of a retard. Should we start killing them off as well?

Trell · « **Reply #33 on:** March 31, 2005, 09:32:26 PM »

If she had brain functions of a retard then she would be able to feed herself, and or be able to communicate some how, she could do neither.

She was a vegetable.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #34 on:** March 31, 2005, 09:36:32 PM »

No, just like anyother person or animal, she has to be taught to do things.

Doctors have said that she could have easily have learned these things. Michael just didn't allow it. For 13 years her Husband didn't allow her to learn how to eat.

Thrawn · « **Reply #35 on:** March 31, 2005, 09:45:09 PM »

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Doctors have said that she could have easily have learned these things.

Which doctors? I would really like to know the name of the doctors that said she could learn to these things with little more than a brainstem.

Sandman · « **Reply #36 on:** March 31, 2005, 09:48:41 PM »

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #37 on:** March 31, 2005, 10:01:31 PM »

Her mental capacity was below that of a mentally handicapped person, she was bed ridden, could not eat or drink, and was a shell of her former person. As a matter of a fact, there was no her. Just her body.

But this is getting stupid, this thread is about her finally getting out of limbo.

You can call me a murderer for saying she needed to go, but you'll still be the ******* for wanting to keep her in that state.
-SW

newguy · « **Reply #38 on:** March 31, 2005, 10:12:03 PM »

sorry, double post.

newguy · « **Reply #39 on:** March 31, 2005, 10:12:17 PM »

I'm glad they let her go, but sailer brought up an interesting point about killing disabled people when he said that she had the brain functions of a "retard" and Trell answered that if she was a retard she would be able to feed herself. This is untrue. There are many disabled people whom without someone to feed them, would die. Where do you draw the line? Tough call, but from what I know about this case (I'm certainly no expert), the right call was made. I'm sure she is better off now.

TweetyBird · « **Reply #40 on:** March 31, 2005, 10:25:48 PM »

You hope Terri is fine? Of course she is fine. She's with the One who created the Sun, the Earth , the universe. But are we fine?
It was more about us than her. Just 50 years ago, medical breakthroughs that would keep people alive were considered gifts from God. Now we're arrogant enough to pick and choose when we want to use them.

Terri is fine. We aren't.

Why doesn't God give us more gifts? I guess because after time we return them.

mora · « **Reply #41 on:** March 31, 2005, 11:09:33 PM »

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Could you imagine if she was concious the whole 15 years, but just couldn't make anyone aware that she was. What kind of torture would that be. She should have been taken off life support after 1-2 years at the most.

Yep, if she indeed was concius this should have been done a long time ago. If she was a total veggie, then keeping her articificially alive was just a tremendous waste of medical resources.

You really should do something about your legal system if a case like this takes 7 years to solve.

Terror · « **Reply #42 on:** April 01, 2005, 04:32:15 PM »

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No, a person described as a vegetable just lies there like a vegetable would. They are alive but have NO brain functions.

Terry had brain functions, but no higher brain functions due to brain damage. She was anything but a vegetable.

But keep justifying her murder if it makes you sleep better at night.

From: http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/coma/coma.htm

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What is Coma and Persistent Vegetative State?
A coma is a profound or deep state of unconsciousness. An individual in a state of coma is alive but unable to move or respond to his or her environment. Coma may occur as a complication of an underlying illness, or as a result of injuries, such as head trauma. A persistent vegetative state (commonly, but incorrectly, referred to as "brain-death") sometimes follows a coma. Individuals in such a state have lost their thinking abilities and awareness of their surroundings, but retain non-cognitive function and normal sleep patterns. Even though those in a persistent vegetative state lose their higher brain functions, other key functions such as breathing and circulation remain relatively intact. Spontaneous movements may occur, and the eyes may open in response to external stimuli. They may even occasionally grimace, cry, or laugh. Although individuals in a persistent vegetative state may appear somewhat normal, they do not speak and they are unable to respond to commands.

It sounds as if she fit exactly into what PVS is defined as.

Terror