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Offline Silat

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« on: April 01, 2005, 03:21:17 PM »
Understatement of the year:

"On a matter of this importance, we simply cannot afford failures of this magnitude," the report said.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/apress_033105_bushwrong.html

Well I guess Clark , Ritter etc were right after all...............
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2005, 03:24:14 PM »
who cares

Iraq was the right move at the right time, and the majority realizes it as they expressed last Nov
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2005, 03:26:13 PM »
Pssst Eagler:
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2005, 03:28:23 PM »
What commission wrote that and I wonder who headed it?

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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2005, 03:39:49 PM »
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who cares

Iraq was the right move at the right time, and the majority realizes it as they expressed last Nov


No, it was wrong. Period.
It was based on lies and propaganda.
We had a choice to wait to see if in fact there were WMD's in existence but our administration pushed for the invasion anyway.
Thing is, we can't say "Oops, my bad" and undo what we've done. Can't bring back the dead or undo the permanent wounds. Rebuilding Iraq to its prewar condition is going to take a lot more money, a lot more. It's going to cost more lives as well.
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2005, 04:12:25 PM »
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who cares

Iraq was the right move at the right time, and the majority realizes it as they expressed last Nov



WHO CARES ?????

It was the main argument used and you post "who care" ...

You have jelly in your skull or what ?

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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2005, 04:16:56 PM »
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who cares

Iraq was the right move at the right time, and the majority realizes it as they expressed last Nov



The assumption here is that everyone voted based on this issue alone, which is of course incorrect.  There were many reason why people voted for or against Bush, or hey didn't even vote at all.

And just because the majority of a given group of people thinks something is correct, doesn't make it so.  I mean hey, most Germans agree with Hitler's policies, does that make them correct?  Of course not.

Come to think of it, all these points are so elementry I real shouldn't have to explain them...oh wait, I'm responding to Eagler.  ;)

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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2005, 04:45:09 PM »
I guess every one forgot Clinton, Gore, Kennedy, Kerry oh and lets not for get every other nation on the security council were making the same claims as Bush and I beleive there is a report out that addresses the fact the soviets were moving large convoys to Syria and Jordan days before the war started presumably with WMD. And I beleive the intellegence failure lies in the fact the CIA was unable to uncover the Soviet Covert Operations to move Iraqs WMD out of the country while having their vote bought from the food for oil project.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2005, 04:49:41 PM »
Yes, Saburo, As benevolent as Hussein was to his own citizens and with the aid he gave to terrorists, we should have absolutely left him in power.
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2005, 04:54:31 PM »
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"we simply cannot afford failures of this magnitude"

Literally

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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2005, 05:36:03 PM »
Wow... seem's as though you guys are collectively missing the point.  This has nothing to do with the trival AHBB blame game, it's about learning from our mistakes and improving the intel community.

Good article, and the commission appears to have made some good common sense recommendations.  It's not about whether or not Iraq had WMD, it's about the fact we thought they did based on the information we had.
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2005, 06:42:28 PM »
Man Lew, you gonna make me leave this place too?
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2005, 07:05:23 PM »
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Man Lew, you gonna make me leave this place too?



Hey Im glad our gov is finding the reason for mistakes and hopefully doing something about it... Arent you?

Did you get the package yet?

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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2005, 07:08:47 PM »
I'm with Tumor on this one. Faulty intel on this scale is pretty embarrassing. Are similar inquiries underway in any other nations' intel communities who believed the same, or is this solely a CIA mistake now?

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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2005, 07:16:46 PM »
Faulty intelligence combined with a foreign policy of 'preemptive attack'.   Sounds like a disaster just waiting to happen.  Or happened.