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Offline Angus

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« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2005, 10:39:28 AM »
Well, well Kurfurst showing his face.
It was lucky for the Germans actually that they didn't have so many V-2's.
Why?
Well, the planned countermeasure was utter BBQ of all German cities in range, and gas being considered as a measure.
Even today, there is hardly a way to stop a V-2.
There have been some successful ones tested, well today's V-2's are named Scuds.......
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2005, 10:44:06 AM »
Intelligence is not search stuff and quote all it fits.

Ur work is just super boring i rather have an intelligent airduel in the MA.

U think ur quite something huh .

That also counts for all the maths and formula u throw here on the board.

I did have maths at school and most can be solved simply by 6 is 3 times 2.

Again that is boring


Its not interesting to me but that doesn´t shouldnt make u think i am a handsomehunk.

Again i have a family and a life and time i have is just to fly and not dive into books like a nerd dork etc.

intelligence is not theoretic thing like u think.

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« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2005, 11:05:01 AM »
What's gotten into you Bug? Please step out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat.
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« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2005, 11:53:40 AM »
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Nah not really any use for it as far as the game goes. But i think its really amazing how many things you see the Germens pioneerd that are in similar use today. Such as Subs launching missiles and the B-2 etc , Jets... I wonder what the germans would have come up with if they had one ww2.


Probly faster and better ways to exterminate people.  Yeah, really amaizing the things the have done for humanity.  

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« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2005, 04:24:45 PM »
So where exactly were the atomic bombs themselves made in Germany? Was it a high or low yield atomic weapon? What was the actual weight of their atomic bomb?  What did the bomb housing itself look like? What airframes or launch vehicles was the weapon tested on? How many tests were conducted that actually detonated an atomic weapon?

Sorry but having a crude atomic pile does not equate to having an atomic bomb that is capable of being deployed.

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« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2005, 05:14:30 PM »
Jesus, this is unreal.
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« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2005, 05:19:29 PM »
Didn't think you could answer those questions. So much for those being German bombs used on Japan.

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« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2005, 05:27:33 PM »
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Jesus, this is unreal.


Even He cant help you here lol.
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« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2005, 05:51:15 PM »
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If the U-boat knew its own exact position when launching I see no reason for the missile to be any less acurate than a land launced one.



Major reason GScholz -- rock is stiffer than water. The launch "platform" at sea would be massively displaced by the rocket's thrust, throwing the tube out of line rapidly and irrevocably.  Thus, there's NO WAY this baby could be aimed in even a general way. It's inconcievable to me that an engineer could even have put this idea to paper.....
 
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I think you missed the point.



Yeah, he did.




Cobra, Scholtz was saying that many of the important RESEARCHERS  had originally come from GErmany. He didnt say that the Germans had the bomb.
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« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2005, 06:19:32 PM »
the germans never got past "heavy water" in their a-bomb development.

some of you think that the germans or the russians invented everything and the americans were just a bunch of soda jerks that could not tie their own shoe laces.

be happy in your version of history.

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« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2005, 06:34:53 PM »
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Major reason GScholz -- rock is stiffer than water. The launch "platform" at sea would be massively displaced by the rocket's thrust, throwing the tube out of line rapidly and irrevocably.  Thus, there's NO WAY this baby could be aimed in even a general way. It's inconcievable to me that an engineer could even have put this idea to paper.....


What part of "inertial navigation system" did you not get? The V2 was not a dumbfire rocket aimed at launch. The trajectory was even corrected in flight by a radio navigation system.

The V2 was one of the most complicated machines built during the war.


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« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2005, 07:31:51 PM »
It has an alcohol tank in the nose.
What a waste!!!!!
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2005, 07:52:21 PM »
Thank you Simaril for enlightening us. I'm very aware of GSs position when it comes to the Germans. The world would have just been hopeless when it comes to technology if it hadn't been for the Germans.   :lol

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« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2005, 08:54:22 PM »
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What part of "inertial navigation system" did you not get? The V2 was not a dumbfire rocket aimed at launch. The trajectory was even corrected in flight by a radio navigation system.

The V2 was one of the most complicated machines built during the war.





Short of the Manhatten project, prabably was the most complicated.


Inertial guidance is well and good, but the critical part of a ballistic launch is the low velocity initial climb. If there's torque or anything else that overtaxes the gyroscopic system, that puppy is toast. Think of all the very expensive, very tall explosive candles created early in the satellite era -- and that relied on the same core of scientists, imported from Germany, with the advantage of US resources and another generation of technology.

The enormous, sustained thrust required to lift the V2 monster would have exerted greater displacing force on the lighter partly submerged "trailer", driving it deep in the ocean and requiring proportionately more thrust to lift the unstable rocket. Meanwhile, that exhaust would have to be vented from the core without creating vortices or blowback around the rocket and up the sides of the silo -- made doubly difficult because the underwater platform couldn;t rely on lateral venting without losing watertight integrity. If the silo "roof" was driven below sea level, inflowing ocean water would have entered the mix.

IF the V2 could have achieved flight, the inertial system could have helped -- but I'm not convinced that 1940's tech could have compensated for teh massive destabilization that launch would have created.


And, BTW, what's with the attitude, Schultz? We're just talking, man....
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« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2005, 03:00:02 AM »
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IF the V2 could have achieved flight, the inertial system could have helped -- but I'm not convinced that 1940's tech could have compensated for teh massive destabilization that launch would have created.


And, BTW, what's with the attitude, Schultz? We're just talking, man....


Look at the first post in this thread ... it flew.

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And this is what's annoying me ... people that cannot follow a simple line of argument without having to be repeatedly reminded about the facts.
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