passports for canadians

[wetrat]

That didn't mention that this is not effective immediately (comes into effect 2006 or 2007), and at that time Americans will also need a passport to re-enter the US.

[vorticon]

WHAT! you mean i now need to have a passport if i want to cross the border to be refused patronage at some grotty bar serving pisswater beer?  looks like im going to need a more serious reason to visit america now...

[airbumba]

Originally posted by Cobra412
What don't want to comment on the Millennium Plot? I kind have figured you wouldn't.

Poor Canadians can't come to the US without a passport anymore. I'm sure many US citizens are horribly upset with this. Why come here if you have issues with the US in the first place? Don't like us then don't come. If you wanna cross our borders though you better get a passport. If not then stay HOME!

...awhhh, does this mean I don't get my story?

[JB88]

no grun.  they would have to give us foreign passports when they enter our country, not american passports.  

americans would have to present passports when they re-entered.  

now, with a political system which is currently engaging in the following constitutionally erosive activities i think its pretty clear which way some people would like the ball to role.

- threatening judges that it is in thier best interests to support party dogma.

- turning the protection of innocent until proven guilty into pre-emptive slander and conviction and with regards to foreign policy...preemptive attack without any meaningful global support.

- breaking constitutional rule by using a dying woman as a litmus test for thier ability to create a law concerning one specific event and to highlight thier crusade to bring the judicial into thier sphere of influence.

- converting a dynamic, creative and innovative culture into one which no longer looks to the hope of the future, but insists that the road ahead is dangerous...with no end of that danger in site.

etc.  etc.

all of this may be fine for you, or for others who would rather that big brother make thier decisions for them...that they no longer remain self determinate...that they no longer be required to reach out an olive branch of peace and equality to the world with an eye upon fairness and compassion.

nope.

i am opposed to anything that even remotely resembles a prison control system.

it is antifreedom, pro machine and i believe that in the long term, it is a balance of freedom and consequence which brings order with progress rather than strong armed tactics with static status quoism.

now, while you are whipping up a fresh batch of paranoia masks for me to wear, why dont you step away from your admonisions and find yourself a nice history book to read.

in them...you will find pages and pages
of mistakes to be learned from.

power has a tendancy to see how far it can go until it is checked.

this is my concern...nothing more, nothing less.

if we do not question...if we do not keep the wheels of democracy slow...we become rome.  

sure they built the aquaducts...but  so were they big.  ugly.  uncreative and doomed.

greek wannabes to the last.














with all due respect of course.

[airbumba]

Originally posted by stantond


p.s. I do not consider Canada a country  that hates the US.  Any country whose beer I drink I would consider visting.  Strange criteria to some, but it makes sense to me.  The same thing goes for Bar-B-Que.

You got that right Malta. The only people who think Canada hates the US are the people who profit from the politically induced tensions that are being kept afloat by timely inflated 'news' story's that keep the artificial tensions going. The only people who think Canada hates the US, are the ones who want YOU to think that.

I haven't met a Canadian yet who has said to me that they outright hate Americans, never. Do we have differences, you bet, big deal. Are they enough to make Canadians hate Americans, not a chance.

And when, and if you do venture up here, let me be the first to buy ya some of that there beer you've taken a fixin to, .

[airbumba]

Well i'm goin to bed, with no story:(


Here's one for you cobra.




Canada is not a superhighway for terrorists, says Interpol boss
 
Wed Mar 30, 5:39 PM ET      
JOHN WARD
OTTAWA (CP) - While some Americans have suggested that Canada is a superhighway for terrorists bound for their country, the head of Interpol, himself an American, says no.
 
      
Ronald Noble, secretary general of the international criminal police body, said Canada works hard in the fight against terrorism.
 
"I am a citizen of the United States and I say that, with all due respect to my country, my country sometimes gets it half right," he said.
"If it's been said that Canada is a superhighway, I would say they got it half right: Canada is super, but it's not a highway."
 
Noble, a former law professor at New York University and one-time chief law enforcement officer for the U.S. Treasury Department, was making his first visit to Canada since taking office four years ago.
 
He said Interpol is making a major effort to improve communications among the world's police forces and to promote information-sharing.
The 182-country body now has a fledgling DNA database, with more than 14,000 entries. It began with only 73 DNA profiles two years ago.
He said the database poses no threat to privacy because there are no names attached. But it allows police in one country to determine if a DNA sample from their crime scene matches that of a crime in another country, allowing the two countries to pool their information to pursue the suspect.

Noble said Canada has played a key role in helping promote co-operative policing.
"Canada contributes in every way one could hope in terms of sharing information," he said.

He said Interpol has set its priorities in crime-fighting: terrorism, financial and high-tech crime, trafficking and sexual exploitation of women and children and drugs and organized criminals.
Co-operation is the best defence, he said, and Canada is showing the way.
"I believe that every country in the world has a responsibility to do all it can to keep its citizens safe, its neighbour's citizens safe and the world community safe," he said.
"As secretary-general of Interpol, whatever you call the highest category of support and participation we have, Canada is in that category."

Noble said Interpol acts as a clearinghouse for information and a support service for member police forces. It has no armed agents of its own, issues no warrants of its own and depends on member countries for technical and manpower support.
RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli, a supporter of Interpol who squired Noble around Ottawa during his visit, said he's a major believer in working with other police.
That's what helps keep the Canada-U.S. border as secure as it can be.
 
      
"Can we guarantee a 100 per cent? Nobody can.
"But I tell you we work extremely hard and work extremely well in a very integrated and co-ordinated fashion on the Canada side and in an integrated and seamless way with our American partners."

Cya later.

[ASTAC]

Canada is "Super"? Kinda reminds me of Big Gay Al "I feel super..thanks for asking"

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Skydancer

Is America no longer the land of the free?
 

Yep, it`s still the land of the free. That`s why you are so jealous isn`t it?
The big difference is now that we are focusing on what is right for the U.S. and it`s citizens like it should have been all along.
If the U.S. bothers you so much, and it is apparent it does from your multitude of U.S. bashing posts, then don`t worry about it anymore. Get over your jealousy, live in your country and don`t worry about ours. I certainly don`t worry about yours. As a matter of fact I could give a rat`s *** less about the affairs of your country. I certainly have no desire to visit there. Can`t see anything that would even remotely interest me. I certainly wouldn`t want to live there, especialy under your government and restrictions.
I certainly don`t want to see folks like you in my country that spends their time bashing it, but who are so obviously jealous of our way of life it makes you appear ignorant and bitter.
So... if these steps are needed to avoid that, then so be it. It`s no biggy and something that should have been done long ago.

[JB88]

Originally posted by Jackal1
Yep, it`s still the land of the free. That`s why you are so jealous isn`t it?
The big difference is now that we are focusing on what is right for the U.S. and it`s citizens like it should have been all along.
If the U.S. bothers you so much, and it is apparent it does from your multitude of U.S. bashing posts, then don`t worry about it anymore. Get over your jealousy, live in your country and don`t worry about ours. I certainly don`t worry about yours. As a matter of fact I could give a rat`s *** less about the affairs of your country. I certainly have no desire to visit there. Can`t see anything that would even remotely interest me. I certainly wouldn`t want to live there, especialy under your government and restrictions.
I certainly don`t want to see folks like you in my country that spends their time bashing it, but who are so obviously jealous of our way of life it makes you appear ignorant and bitter.
So... if these steps are needed to avoid that, then so be it. It`s no biggy and something that should have been done long ago.

a tip to save time and finger strain jackle...

"jealous much?"  would have sufficed in this case.

[Jackal1]

88 go drip some water or work on your gerbil art. Something productive like that.

[Toad]

Nice red herring and strawman techniques throughout the thread. WTG JB88, nicely done.

[JB88]

all that time that i spent as a republican must be showing through again toad.

it was the big government switcheroo that broke it for me...the immenent threat of caligulan imperialism looming on the horizon like so many broken gladiators pouring thier blood red soul into the soil for our entertainment.

[JB88]

Originally posted by Jackal1
88 go drip some water or work on your gerbil art. Something productive like that.

yer gonna have to do better than throw my work at me my friend.  i know you liked it.

since when do drive through window folks have a corner on politics in this country anyhow?

peace.

88

[MiloMorai]

Toad, do you know were the name Wop originated?

It originated on Ellis Is and was stamped on the immagrants immigration papers that came in WithOut Papers.

In 2000 befor 911 hit the fan I did a crosscountry trip and every time I crossed (several times) into the States I showed my passport and got the 3rd degree from the American border guards.

BTW, every time I go to Quebec I carry my passport.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by JB88
yer gonna have to do better than throw my work at me my friend.  i know you liked it.

 Yea, I thought it was just .....errrr........ummmmm...pe achy.