Don't want WindowsXP SP2?

[Boroda]

Nice.

Looks like I was right. When someone brings me a PC to fix - I say that they have to uninstall XP themselves, or I'll do it for $20 and I'll never work on an XP system.

I wonder how many people will run to my office in horror after their PCs will stop working. I want to upgrade, now I'll have the money.

[JB73]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
SO how long do you think it is going to take Jb73 to melt down in this thread?

seeing as this is a duplicat thread and i was called ignorant in the last one, im going to stay out of this one.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by JB73
seeing as this is a duplicat thread and i was called ignorant in the last one, im going to stay out of this one.

Really? I try not to do duplicate threads. I did anothe search, and I'm missing it.

[JB73]

not your fault

here it is:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=147289

not totally the same, but my snippet was from an article about requiring SP2

[GtoRA2]

Jb73
 Are you a drama queen in real life too or just on the boards?

[JB73]

are you a **** smoker in real life or just on the boards?

[Elfie]

Originally posted by artik
There is:

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• Download one of Linux ditributions - Red Hat, Debian or others. (from 1 to 4 CDs with full system: desptop, office, mail, multimedia etc, depends on what you need)
• Take one disk partition of the computer or take old computer that you use it less.
• Install dual boot system
• Enjoy!!!

You will going to see that it works very good - the newest desktops Gnome, KDE has great GUI. It is not harder to work with Linux then with any other system.

You also can try what is called LiveCD Linux (Knoppix or other) : download one CD enter it to computer reboot and run it without any installation. After you finish, remove CD and reboot the system to normal state.

It is ready to run system with full HW autodetection that allows you to see what Linux is... And if you decide to use you can install normal ditribution.

When I've started to use Linux, I've found that I hadn't reboot to windows for long time... so I removed Windows from my home computer (anyway it is too old and can't run AH2).

eh? I have no idea how to create a dual boot system, nor do I know what the heck you are talking about here

Maybe you could tell me in plain english? ie layman's terms? I've heard of Linux, but never seen it in action. I only use my computer to play games with. Can you still play games like AH on a Linux Operating System?

[GtoRA2]

LOL
 Hey, its ok to a be drama queen.

 Your post scream it. Just embrace it.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Nilsen
This isnt your first attempt to diss OSX, and ill ignore it just as fine this time as before

vulcans.... lol

Don't believe me huh? There is 13 known OS X keyloggers out there (that I found when challenged by Mac users about 6 months ago).

Tell me whats worse:
 - Windows with loads of spyware/keyloggers and loads of cleaner/detection software
 - OS X with a handlefull of spyware/keyloggers and no detection software

Your reaction is absolutely typical of a Mac user and why Macs are fast becoming considered high security risks.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by DoctorYO
Not true..  OS X is free BSD under the hood...

if your know your unix there are plenty of apps....


The only thing microsoft has the market on is the gaming market.. maybe office but thats changing rapidly.. everything else its losing ground to free alternatives..

Whoever made the direct X indirect cash cow was a genius.  Suck in all the developers and corner the market...  (MS SOP)  you cant ignore Microsofts business savvy...

DoctorYo

Yes thats true, but can a home user buy an off the shelf product without having to hunt down and recompile something?

M$ has lots more than gaming,  the whole enterprise market is its strength. For large managed enterprise solutions nothing beats an M$ platform.

FWIW I hate M$ as much as anybody else. I just dislike Mac owners who think OS X is so wonderful when all it is is a bastardized BSD kernel with lots of eye candy and issues all over. I work with a network with lots of Apples all over it, I work with Apple people, I know the limitations - its not all its cracked up to be.

[Reschke]

Just go with the alternative to the alternative Operating System.............


BeOS 5

Its cheap you can get it for free as a "developer" or for under $30 when you find a site that you can download it from.

I had BeOS 4 on a system a long time ago and boy was it a wild ride. This was back in the days of the first nVidia cards and they were hell to get to work right.


BeOS

BeOS

BeOS

BeOS RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!

[DoctorYO]

First lets get this OS battle out of head..

Use the right tool for the job is my opinion..

Saying that OSX has no protections imo is just wrong..   Now does the dumb user know those protections..???  As Kofi the Frog would say "hell no"

Half of the people on this planet using computers dont even know wtf a trojan/keylogger is let alone malformed html vulnrability in outlooks preview pane..

OSX runs off BSD..  BSD is unix..  Unix has been around longer then microsoft hence most (note most ) of the bugs have been squished..

Will microsoft over time kill most of their bugs most likely yes..  but they are also creating more through their so called innovation.. (bundling the browser with the shell, WMP with the shell, outlook with the shell.. etc..)  Imo and note my opinion only this is bad.. (good for the dummies/users bad for people like me who keep their stuff running..)

All machines need to be configured to be secure..  Out of the box I would say MS do to its tampering / blurring between shell / app innovation is less secure than OSX for two reasons..  One  usage of microsoft product makes it much more inviting a target for miscreants.(more machines run it)  Two the ease at some of these attacks against the apps / neo shell blurring makes it a ripe target for BO attacks aimed at the app which then effects the shell...  which is bad... script kiddies love fresh MS installs.. hell they love fresh install of anything...

in osx most of the exploits are aimed at the windows manager not necessary the shell..  dont get me wrong unpatched early releases of osx had some blatant old school unix bugs that imo apple should have caught..

but all in all OSX is more secure..

OSX is unix..  thats means i dont have to pull up task manager to see processess  i just demand them... and guess what  haxor.Icoad software running used at this time (date) with 3 pipes going out haxor.ru is quickly noticed..

can i do the same with windows command line yes...  

Infact almost all these so called apps / trojan catchers are using the command line components in windows and putting window dressing and interface on it and calling it new improved spyware catcher..

Look im not bashing MS to the core..(they have strengths and weaknesses)  I give credit where credit is due and they do a great job in the business end of market control etc, hence direct X as their current best example ..

I work with Apple people

Ive found your problem right here...  Do any of them have colored hair and black nail polish.....  most die hard apple folks ive dealt with are creative types with little common sense.. (not all most)

My first computer I owned was a mac plus..  then apple got greedy and i saw the power of the darkside (more apps) and converted to microsoft intel solution..  now I use whatever works..

the latest OSX im impressed but apple still wants to charge me double for their hardware so i dont use apple..  (mac mini i may get as a TV/comp solution. we shall see)

I currently use knoppix on a flash mem stick alot... nothing like carrying your own desktop with you where you go.. buts that new school and most are clueless to the power of knoppix let alone STD knoppix...

Hell my opinion of a perfect OS  give me windows 98 with protected memory..  and ill be content....  it does what i tell it without spying interfering like XP and WMP does...  and has a low footprint / mem requrements...  and is desktop software without heavy server abilities built in which are also vulnrabilites...

but hey we all cant get what we want.. SO i use them all...


DoctorYo

[Nilsen]

Interesting post again Doctor. I liked it.

Im no diehard apple or ms fan. On my favorite mac board i am frequently dissed for not worshipping everything Steve J. does and his business ways. When im on "ms" forums they claim im an apple nut ..LOL

Im always sceptical and really cant stand "fan boyz" in any camp.

At the moment I think OSX is way better than WinXP except for gaming but that may change when Longhorn gets out. The real test would be if apple released OSX for "regular" computers but that will never happen.

For now im perfectly happy with using a mac powerbook and a windows desktop. I use the mac for everything but gaming and that works just great for me.

[artik]

Most important is - what do you need your OS for?

For someone who "only use my computer to play games with."

Windows is good enough - only because it has lots of games for it. Someone like him don't care/interested what computer for, what OS is etc... Windows would be perfrect for him... untill you need to may too much for it and there is less games for other platforms.

Mac, FreeBSD, Linux, Unix - these are for people who uses their computers and know what they do and what they need it for.

FreeBSD is perfect for Networking/Servers
Linux(es) - combination of good desktop with good security and unix network/dev abilities. Flexible system that can be used for both network/server/development apps and it is flexible enough for most of needs.

Mac... - never used one sorry can't tell.

Andway if you know what computer for and what do you use it for... You probably would pic one of Linux, FreeBSD=MacOSX for some tasks and Windoze for games.

I type this text from my old computer that is not suitable for games but I use it for internet, some development/calculations... And it is Linux... I like it very much and I use it.

[Elfie]

All this stuff is waaaay over my head.