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« on: April 08, 2005, 02:33:29 AM »
I was paying $1.80 something around Xmas time ...

In the last two weeks priced RATOed. That was south of downtown, I don't even want to check the prices in Beverly Hills:D
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2005, 02:50:24 AM »
No blood for oil!

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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2005, 02:51:00 AM »
Don't worry, we'll soon switch to cheap, plentiful, hydrogen!

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2005, 03:00:36 AM »
And Frenchy
JOO VILL COME DRINK MIT UNS IN CHINO OR ELSE!!!!
And you have to bring the Pontiac.

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2005, 03:58:39 AM »
Just think Frenchy - its still cheaper to fill our cars with 100LL then pull upto a Shell station.

Oh the irony..


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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2005, 04:19:59 AM »
OMG! With the USD-EUR exchange rate, the gallon of Regular is almost as expensive as a gallon of diesel here (2.75*1.28679=3.49 EUR vs 3.79 EUR)...

I've never thought that I would see this happen...
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2005, 04:27:32 AM »
Say bye bye to GM and any automaker who depends on selling SUVs and pickups and other behemoths.

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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2005, 04:33:11 AM »
100LL is "low lead", but a friend of mine told me that it has more lead in it than regular gasoline/ethyl.  It would be sure to fork up your catalytic converter.

Don't feel bad. I've just done a calculation which tells me we're paying more than $6 per US gallon in Britain (90p per litre).

The problem in America is due in part to American motorists cravings for sport utility vehicles or SUVs, which are disastrous in terms of fuel consumption. The problem is further compounded by the blinkered thinking that it is their "right" to drive whatever they like, and to hell with the issue of oil resources, which they consider to be "someone else's problem". We even see it on this board - someone posts a pic of the "best" car, which usually means fastest or (more to the point) faster than the car picture posted by the previous person in the thread.

Think of your gas prices as a wake up call. It's time to stop raping this planet for its natural resources. I'm paying at least twice as much for fuel as American motorists pay, but how often do you hear me complain about it? But these howls of anguish about US gas prices appear on this board all the time. Maybe if they would drive something that gets better than 18mpg the pain would not be as bad...

I don't often complain about road fuel prices, but I'm going to do it now. I am outraged that in Britain diesel costs even more than petrol, when diesel costs much less to produce, and less crude oil is needed to create an equivalent volume of diesel. In all the European countries I've driven in recently (Holland, France, Spain, Portugal) diesel costs about two thirds as much as petrol, reflecting its lower production costs. We have the most expensive road diesel in the world. (we also have a Labour govt)

So I'm glad I get 47mpg, and can do 500 miles on a tank of diesel. I do about 20,000 miles a year and spend about £40/week on fuel. At today's exchange rate, that's about $75.

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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2005, 04:38:00 AM »
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In all the European countries I've driven in recently (Holland, France, Spain, Portugal) diesel costs about two thirds as much as petrol



That's because the road tax on diesel vehicles in those countries is quadruple the tax on petrol vehicles.

Over here the road tax is the same so they lump the duty on diesel to make up for it.


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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2005, 05:07:49 AM »
What is road tax ?

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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2005, 05:18:01 AM »
ok, well it is in Holland anyway.


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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2005, 05:22:33 AM »
Beetle,

Frenchy and I being pilots - 100LL is our only drug of choice. Just drawing the comparison for the purpose that we can run our planes for less then it costs to run our cars since 100LL is produced as 0.005 % of the petrol used here in the US and the world. Its cost is affected by the additives, TEL, toluene, etc.

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2005, 05:33:37 AM »
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ok, well it is in Holland anyway.

 


It was removed in France in 2000 ;)

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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2005, 06:12:08 AM »
Wolf - yes, I've been a 100LL addict myself. I just love that blue colour. :)

Straffo -  what is that "vignette" thing that cars have, and how much does it cost for a petrol car and a diesel car?

Swoop - I never heard of that. I know that Holland has a very high tax on the purchase of cars.

One of our NZ guys described a situation which sounds a bit like what you said. In NZ, they don't have red diesel and road diesel. It's all the same stuff, but road diesel users pay a separate tax on mileage.

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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2005, 06:53:27 AM »
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Straffo -  what is that "vignette" thing that cars have, and how much does it cost for a petrol car and a diesel car?


The "vignette" is dead since november 2000.
It still exist for car used by professionals but I don't know the cost
The cost was depending of the power of the car and the "département" for example the vignette was less expensive in the Eure (27) were I live than in the Yvelines (78) the "département" just bordering for the same car.