Author Topic: Possible suicide bomber at Capitol (Read 2054 times)

NUKE · « **Reply #60 on:** April 12, 2005, 04:02:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Well.. the powder is "protected".

no it isn't.

Staga · « **Reply #61 on:** April 12, 2005, 04:13:25 AM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
Explosives are not a protected right, guns are.

Why is that? Shouldn't you have a right to defend yourself with grenades if you wish so?

Fishu · « **Reply #62 on:** April 12, 2005, 04:43:20 AM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
no it isn't.

So does that make the bullets illegal?

Jackal1 · « **Reply #63 on:** April 12, 2005, 06:23:03 AM »

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Originally posted by Staga
Something I've been pondering...
For Lazs & other guys who think everyone should be allowed to carry a gun: Do you think people should have a right to carry hand grenades under their jackets if they wish so?

As "one of the other guys" , I ask you ,where you get the idea that we beleive "everyone" should be allowed to carry a gun?

As for the hand grenade question...well...that`s just filed in the assinine bin.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #64 on:** April 12, 2005, 06:32:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
So does that make the bullets illegal?

Why would bullets be illegal?
A bullet is nothing more than a projectile made of lead, metal, alloys or combination of all.
It actualy can do nothing unless inserted in a primed and powdered cartridge .

Raven_2 · « **Reply #65 on:** April 12, 2005, 06:37:53 AM »

Well, your TV don`t show you the full picture, as always :-) This guy was australian citizen, chinese by birth. He stand before capital with two bags. Noone even try to speak with him (but police aim rifle on him all the time). After he was detained, his bags were blowed up by sappers. There were clothing, clock and other personal things. Also were said that his aim was to talk with Bush (but it well known that Bush was on his rancho with Sharon). It is what Russia TV shows/said to us.

Fishu · « **Reply #66 on:** April 12, 2005, 07:52:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
It actualy can do nothing unless inserted in a primed and powdered cartridge .

I'm yet to hear of americans buying & using unpowdered bullets in their protected guns.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #67 on:** April 12, 2005, 07:55:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
I'm yet to hear of americans buying & using unpowdered bullets in their protected guns.

Then you must be very uninformed.
Those of us who reload buy "unpowdered bullets" all the time.

Fishu · « **Reply #68 on:** April 12, 2005, 08:02:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Jackal1
Then you must be very uninformed.
Those of us who reload buy "unpowdered bullets" all the time.

and how about the "using" part?
I doubt majority of the firearms fires very well with an unpowdered bullet.

lazs2 · « **Reply #69 on:** April 12, 2005, 08:18:09 AM »

well... what a relief.. the no bombs law must be working.

staga.. no. I do not think that high explosives should be allowed to be carried in public places or stored in residences. there are many laws against this. some are even fire laws and city ordanences.

A fire in your home full of explosives would endanger your neighbors and firefighters.

It would also not be in your control. We even have laws against storing too much gunpowder for reloading in resedential areas and I am fine with that.

I do not think that it is reasonable to think that high explosives can be controled by the owner.

lazs

mosgood · « **Reply #70 on:** April 12, 2005, 08:55:21 AM »

Chairboy,

What experience do you have in terrorist methods? Do you think that there may be a chance that the police weren't just out to kick the crap out of some tourist and blow up his underwear, but that the situation that was occuring was unusual enough for a little caution. The police are people just like you. If you thought that there was ANY chance that this situation might be dangerous and that that guy might be ready to blowup 2 suitcase full of explosives, would you REALLY just casually walk up to him and ask him "Hey... are you a terrorist? Ya know... I'm just wondering... now don't talk this the wrong way... i need to know whether I need to use force on you or not... so is there explosives in your suitcases or are you just stopping by to see the president for a social call?"

It's not entirely out of the question that security in high profile buildings like where CONGRESS is might be justifiably a little paroniod.

lazs2 · « **Reply #71 on:** April 12, 2005, 08:58:35 AM »

If he had bombs that went off and security said.... we though he was just a confused tourist...

how would this thread be going?

lazs

mosgood · « **Reply #72 on:** April 12, 2005, 09:01:45 AM »

Chairboy would be praising the civilized nature of our police forces and the dead policemens families and the families of the dead people in the area would all feel good that no one over reacted.

Raven_2 · « **Reply #73 on:** April 12, 2005, 09:55:30 AM »

to mosgood

Full police control on citizens (and by their own will) in country that postulate itself "the freeest in the world" - that would bee cool.

In SU in 1917-1921 you can say that someone is counter-revolutioner and he is being arrested. Now in USA you can say that someone is terrorist - and get the same result. Good work, guys :-) Keep it going. Viva la democracy :-) SU is dead, now we have USA.

Airhead · « **Reply #74 on:** April 12, 2005, 10:24:43 AM »

Look to the bright side- this guy is gonna have some great vacation videos to share with the folks back home.