Thanks, UN! We're saved!

[SkyWolf]

Originally posted by GScholz


McVeigh was not a terrorist, if you think so you are an “anti-American”.

Hmmmm.... What oscar did you pull that out of? McVeigh was a terrorist.

Woof

[Tarmac]

Originally posted by GScholz
Then perhaps you people should start fixing you own definition of terrorism before you start on the UN. You see the definition used by the FBI and US government is that only foreign individuals and organisations can be labelled “terrorists”.

McVeigh was not a terrorist, if you think so you are an “anti-American”.

FBI definition of terrorism: "the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

from http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/fbi_terror95/terrusa.htm

Nothing about foreign or domestic anything there.  Check your facts before you post.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Skydancer

"Naw jus throw it away boys we'll make new one all of our own"
 

I`m shocked. You finaly came up with a top notch idea. Way to go. I`m proud of ya.

We helped promote Budweiser also, but that don`t mean we are forced to swallow the horse piss.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Elfie
Yes.

Timothy McViegh attacked a federal building, something the US has done in Iraq during the Gulf War and I believe the Iraq War.

[Krusher]

Originally posted by SkyWolf
Hmmmm.... What oscar did you pull that out of? McVeigh was a terrorist.

Woof

It makes him feel good Skywolf, GS is the poster boy for noodle envy

[Krusher]

Originally posted by Tarmac
FBI definition of terrorism: "the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

from http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/fbi_terror95/terrusa.htm

Nothing about foreign or domestic anything there.  Check your facts before you post.

his google search musta been wacked

[lazs2]

I had heard mcveigh called a "domestic terrorist".

As for the U.N.   dump it.  I can see how impotent countries would like a say in running powerful ones and... UN leaders like a shot at all the power and graft and fame but...  for the U.S.  it is lose/lose.

If I have any say I will allways vote to get out of the UN.

lazs

[Tarmac]

Scholtz, what you quoted there was a law defining FTO's, or Foreign Terrorist Organizations.  Your quote basically says that for something to be a Foreign Terrorist Organization, it has to be foreign, an organization, and engage in terrorism.

The FBI's blanket definition of terrorism doesn't include any national origin.

[Tarmac]

Don't forget though, that every law and organization of the US government is free to come up with its own definition of terrorism.  So while your assertion about the FBI's definition is incorrect, there may well be govt organizations that define terrorists as strictly foreign.  Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

[Rino]

Originally posted by Tarmac
FBI definition of terrorism: "the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

from http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/fbi_terror95/terrusa.htm

Nothing about foreign or domestic anything there.  Check your facts before you post.

     Oh please, if he or skydancer actually checked for facts before
starting their usual diatribes against America, they wouldn't have
3 posts between them.

[Skydancer]

No diatribe here. Read the posts don't go on what other idiots in here say.

All I said was you guys helped set the UN up. A fine achievement in my opinion. Seems a bit churlish to chuck it out now just cos in its current form it doesn't suit you. You have to live on this planet with a lot of other nations might as well make the effort to get along.

Come on thats not anti american its anti anyone who starts something then wont get involved when things dont go exactly your way. Its like nah nayh not playing anymore in a kids game!
Wonder how your country felt when the Soviets started the I'm not playing anymore game back in the late fourties early fifties?

[lazs2]

skyprancer... are you comparing us to the soviet union of the 50's?

There is nothing wrong with dumping an unworkable idea.   to not do so leads to things like die hard commies still thinking the communism works and that is just hasn't been done right yet.

lazs

[Raptor]

Originally posted by Skydancer
Didn't the USA actualy help start the UN as an organisation.

"In 1945, representatives of 50 countries met in San Francisco at the United Nations Conference on International Organization to draw up the United Nations Charter. Those delegates deliberated on the basis of proposals worked out by the representatives of China, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom and the United States at Dumbarton Oaks, United States in August-October 1944. The Charter was signed on 26 June 1945 by the representatives of the 50 countries. Poland, which was not represented at the Conference, signed it later and became one of the original 51 Member States."

Rather typical .

"Its broke and don't do what we want anymore!"

"Aw Shucks shall we work hard to fix it?"

"Naw jus throw it away boys we'll make new one all of our own"

Didnt we also create the League of Nations after WW1? It was about the same as the UN is now, except the US didnt join the League of Nations which it worked to create...

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Skydancer
Read the posts don't go on what other idiots in here say.
 

Other idiots=Zulu/Americon.....on and on..Tin whatever it was.

Wonder how your country felt when the Soviets started the I'm not playing anymore game back in the late fourties early fifties?

Probably like...Talk to us in the 80s, 90s, and the years of 2000, then tell us..How ya like me now biatch?

[SkyWolf]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Timothy McViegh attacked a federal building, something the US has done in Iraq during the Gulf War and I believe the Iraq War.

This is interesting.... I never knew that the fine citizens of America Junior harbored so much hostility towards us.

Woof