109G10 V Spitfire MK V or Seafire

[Big G]

Hey guys
I am currently sticking with the Seafire/MkV until I have mastered the basics of trying to last in a fight/Furball.
I have been chatting to a few other newbs and they seem to be going with the G10.
So what would the advantage be (or not) of switching to this plane ?
I'm trying to avoid constantly switching planes as I am not good enough yet to take anything up and win, so I guess the question would be why pick the G10 ?
 Cheers
Big G

[JB73]

G10 is in the top 5 fastest planes (non perked) in the game.

it turns decent when the gondolas are not loaded.

if you pick the 30mm cannon, 1-2 hits usually brings down a plane.

overall the gun package is better than the spit V

the climb rate of the G10 is one of the best in the game

[Howitzer]

Originally posted by Big G
Hey guys
I am currently sticking with the Seafire/MkV until I have mastered the basics of trying to last in a fight/Furball.
I have been chatting to a few other newbs and they seem to be going with the G10.
So what would the advantage be (or not) of switching to this plane ?
I'm trying to avoid constantly switching planes as I am not good enough yet to take anything up and win, so I guess the question would be why pick the G10 ?
 Cheers
Big G

Picking the G10 over the spitV?  Better climb rate, better accelleration, more WEP, better guns (depends how you look at it), better fuel options. Downside to the G10 is:  Doesn't turn well at all, you most likely don't want to get slow with a plane that can turn, compresses at 450, works best when you imply "slashing tactics" which if you are new, you probably don't fully comprehend how to do.  

G10 will teach you patience and how to have "light hands" on the stick as you WILL snaproll it at about 175 mph if you try to turn hard.  With the spit, you can just yank that stick around all day, and after you get used to flying it and switch to something else, you may have a hard time not stalling.  

However, one more big downside of the G10 is if you start flying it consistently, you will attract the attention of those freakin JB luftwobble nerds and they'll want to assimilate you into their borg colony.  You can be JB45  

[Howitzer]

Originally posted by JB73
G10 is in the top 5 fastest planes (non perked) in the game.

it turns decent when the gondolas are not loaded.

if you pick the 30mm cannon, 1-2 hits usually brings down a plane.

overall the gun package is better than the spit V

the climb rate of the G10 is one of the best in the game

See... its happening already...  

[99taylor]

stay fast with the G10 you'll live longer!!

[DamnedRen]

Are you in a hurry? Going to be leaving us soon? Don't like the game?

If not and you plan on stayign here why not take your time and enjoy one bird for a month or two.

Ren

[JB73]

Originally posted by Howitzer
However, one more big downside of the G10 is if you start flying it consistently, you will attract the attention of those freakin JB luftwobble nerds and they'll want to assimilate you into their borg colony.  You can be JB45  

ROFLMAO


though did forget to mention the leather underwear that get shipped you your house after 100 sorties in a germam plane

[swift]

I started with the G10. I found that once you learn to handle the G10 it's easier to learn to handle other planes.  Keeping it under compression usually isn't a problem, if you find yourself compressing in it just turn off combat trim, throttle back full and put elevator all the way up and she should snap back up easily.  You get a huge amount of WEP in the plane also which rocks. The only problem I have had with learning to fly the G10 first is getting used to guns that aren't 30mm.. it fires much differently than the other weapons, but after realizing that I just switched to the 20mm package and got used to that. G10 for the win.


EDIT: In my opinion the G10 is a great starter plane.  I've had people tell me to learn in a spitV first, but generally even in a spit a new player will get owned in a turn fight.  I think using a BnZ plane to start with is much better as you will have alot more survivability in the MA and get more combat time in before you die, meaning you spend much less time traveling in autopilot to the base you want to get to. I personally think the more time in combat you get to see the faster you will learn. Flying a spit in a straight line for 5 mins just to get shot down 30secs after engaging doesn't do much for you at all.

[Howitzer]

Originally posted by JB73
ROFLMAO


though did forget to mention the leather underwear that get shipped you your house after 100 sorties in a germam plane

I've been watching for the FedEx man all week.  Wife can't wait!  

[dedalos]

Originally posted by swift

EDIT: In my opinion the G10 is a great starter plane.  I've had people tell me to learn in a spitV first, but generally even in a spit a new player will get owned in a turn fight.  I think using a BnZ plane to start with is much better as you will have alot more survivability in the MA and get more combat time in before you die, meaning you spend much less time traveling in autopilot to the base you want to get to. I personally think the more time in combat you get to see the faster you will learn. Flying a spit in a straight line for 5 mins just to get shot down 30secs after engaging doesn't do much for you at all.

But to learn to fight you have to fight, no?  BnZ is not 'fighting'.  I guess it is a matter of taste/style but in my opinion you learn by dieing.  Get a p40 or a Ki61 with 100% fuel. That should teach you, lol.  Seriusly though, I don't see why you would die faster in a SpitV than in a 109G10.

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by swift
[B.


EDIT: In my opinion the G10 is a great starter plane.  I've had people tell me to learn in a spitV first, but generally even in a spit a new player will get owned in a turn fight.  I think using a BnZ plane to start with is much better as you will have alot more survivability in the MA and get more combat time in before you die, meaning you spend much less time traveling in autopilot to the base you want to get to. I personally think the more time in combat you get to see the faster you will learn. Flying a spit in a straight line for 5 mins just to get shot down 30secs after engaging doesn't do much for you at all. [/B]

I agree with you to a point swift. I was the Spit5 learner and was the guy getting owned every night. Now I can do my fair share of ownage after a little under 1/2 a year. Basically I think it comes out like this:

Spit: Die a lot more in the beginning but learn much faster

109: Live longer but learn slower since you can run from your mistake

Not saying one or the other is correct, just preference. If it works for you, then go with it.

[wrag]

Hmmm...

Love the G10 and the F4.  IMHO much of what these planes could do re manuvers in AH1 are now gone in AHII

For me one of the keys to the G10, or any 109, is learn to use the RUDDER!

In a dive if you roll the plane so one wing is high and apply rudder in the direction of the high wing you can prevent compression.

All 109's roll far better then they turn.  If done properly the roll is a better manuver over the turn and can be a real advantage under certain circumstances.  

Example:  You want to go to the right roll LEFT with allot of LEFT rudder.  Stop when you reach the point your trying to get to.  And vs versa.

[swift]

Originally posted by dedalos
But to learn to fight you have to fight, no?  BnZ is not 'fighting'.  I guess it is a matter of taste/style but in my opinion you learn by dieing.  Get a p40 or a Ki61 with 100% fuel. That should teach you, lol.  Seriusly though, I don't see why you would die faster in a SpitV than in a 109G10.

You get to shoot a bit more BnZ, helps with gunnery IMO.  And eventually you will lose alt, or more probable someone will come around in a higher plane and you can E/turn fight them.  Learning to turn fight in a G10, IMO, makes learning angles/E states etc easier. Just my opinion though, and take it with a grain of salt. I haven't even gotten my first month in yet.

[DaddyAck]

I certianly love the German products, especially the 190's.
Though I tend to take the F variation, I believe it to be moe agile and suprise the prey.  They will be expecting you in a G-10 so they will not see you able to turn.  Suprise them!:aok

[Furball]

as far as i am concerned...

if you want to learn ACM and be able to fight in any situation.. learn in a turnfighter.  I learned in Hurricane IIC, the speed of the plane makes you anticipate your opponents actions and think of ways to get yourself close enough to the target for the shot.

You may die a lot at first, but you will have a lot of 'eureka!!' moments when you figure moves and techniques out - its a hell of a lot of fun.

Look for the nearest enemy CV and up a IIC up into the hoard, as much fun you can possibly have in AH imo.

Once you learn those moves you can adapt them and use them in ANY aircraft.  Learning to BnZ from the start will just teach you bad habits.