109 G14

[Angus]

Very very Nice
I mean, if we want a 109 Skin, Hartmann's or for that sake, GALLAND's is the ultimate Hartmann's Gustav, Gallands Emil?
Ummm, maybe should start a thread about skins....

[Kaz]

My thanks to all of you for the info.

[Wotan]

The G-14 is mentioned in Mtt meetings minutes as the official name of the G-6/MW50 designation which was used internally by Mtt for the G-6 equipped with the MW-50 system (previously used on the recce G-6/R2 variant).

The G-10 is described as the evolution of the G-6 using MW-50 (same system as G-6/R2) and the DB605DM.

The G-14 used only the following engines:

DB605AM,
DB605ASM

M = MW50

Neither the DB605A nor the DB605AS were mounted on the G-14, since the main difference from G-6 was the presence of MW-50, which required either the DB605AM or the DB605ASM engine.

The DB605AS(M) used the same supercharger as the DB605D, they were rebuilt using DB605A casing and fitted with the DB603A supercharger. They required the same kind of cowling as the DB605D equipped aircraft. Yet there are some small cowling differences between a G-10 and a G-14/AS, so you can identify one from the other.

The difference between the A and AS on one hand and the AM and ASM in the other hand is the addition of MW-50. Of course there were other differences such as sparkplugs, timings and other settings etc.

The G-14 was (as the others) produced by Messerschmitt in Regensburg, Erla Maschinenwerke in Leipzig and WNF (Wiener Neustädter Flugzeugwerke).

The minority was built by WNF. Many G-14s built by WNF had their MG 151/20 replaced by a MK 108, which resulted in the designation G-14/U4.

So the majority built by Messerschmitt and Erla kept their MG 151/20.

[agent 009]

Hartmann said the 109 was faster than Mustang below 15.000 ft in the book "The greatest aces" by edward Sims.

Someone sent me a message that Hartmann actually never got a K, & that his last was a G-10. I believe G-10's got most of the same equipment as the K did. So I've been told. Same bigger oil cooler, same prop, & same taller tail. Upgraded 605 motors as well.

I know, latter 109's are confusing.

[Kurfürst]

Indeed, the G-10 had pretty much the same performance as the K. The K was only speedier, by ca. 20-25 kph with it`s aerodynamic refinements.

The main difference between K-4 and G-10 were :

- large wheels are standard on the K-4, with fairings
- long tailwheel is standard on the K-4, and retractable
- tall tail also standard, with Flettner
- K-4 has redesigned, rationalized cocpit
- MK 108 standard
- internal arrangement of subsystems revised on the 109K, ie. master compass, radios, batteries.
- K-4`s MW50 tank can also be used as an extra fuel tank.

Both type had increased electronic capacity (2000W), shared to DB 605 D engine, and the associated wide blade prop (also true for G-6/AS and G-14/AS). Both of them received Flettner tabs for ailerons on occasion.

[MiloMorai]

Originally posted by Kurfürst
Both of them received Flettner tabs for ailerons on occasion.

What?  Only on occasion now. I know some people who will be happy you finally admit this.

[agent 009]

cockpit panel made of wood in K-4. I read flettners were nailed shut as they caused turbulence with untabbed elevators.


Flettner stuff.
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