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Offline Raider179

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« Reply #120 on: April 28, 2005, 03:01:46 PM »
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waste of time and money, simple crown job will make all file records null and void.
and still can't track it.


Rino; LMAO, maybe. :)

Then you should have to have your gun retested on a yearly basis. And if it is altered other than by normal wear, guess you should lose your gun. That is something I would be happy to let my taxes pay for.
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« Reply #121 on: April 28, 2005, 03:03:38 PM »
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bustr you are a very silly man...  :rofl :rofl :rofl


Sorry Maverick,

You want I should beat around the bush for a few pages worth and make it a Liberals Polemic Fantisy so we can sit around and circle whang it for another few pages?
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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« Reply #122 on: April 28, 2005, 03:14:23 PM »
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You have no control over what the government thinks is illegal or legal during a fishing expidition. So when you give your right to privicy away so cavalierly, you are giving away your right to the assumption of innocent untill proven guilty. Every time one person gives away the right to privacy like you just did, you make it that much harder for the rest of "We the People" who understand what is fundimentaly at stake.


You know what I am willing to let go of a little "privacy" if it will catch a friggin child molester, terrorist, murder, rapist, etc. Sorry you don't feel the same.
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« Reply #123 on: April 28, 2005, 04:00:24 PM »
Actually, no I don't know what you mean.

Does this mean for 1 child you would sacrafice the freedom and privacy of the rest of us? Please be very specific, and not so general when you speak for other than your own rights.

Police departments and government agencies are populated by human beings. That means 100% they conform to the human norm on ego, selfishness, lawlessness, etc........ Their first order of business will always be to perpetuate their interests, job longevity, paycheck, personal agendas.  Just like you and I do where we are employed.
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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« Reply #124 on: April 28, 2005, 04:04:16 PM »
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You know what I am willing to let go of a little "privacy" if it will catch a friggin child molester, terrorist, murder, rapist, etc. Sorry you don't feel the same.


of course, the fact that theres easier and less intrusive ways to go about finding these people means nothing.
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« Reply #125 on: April 28, 2005, 04:04:53 PM »
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Actually, no I don't know what you mean.

Does this mean for 1 child you would sacrafice the freedom and privacy of the rest of us? Please be very specific, and not so general when you speak for other than your own rights.

Police departments and government agencies are populated by human beings. That means 100% they conform to the human norm on ego, selfishness, lawlessness, etc........ Their first order of business will always be to perpetuate their interests, job longevity, paycheck, personal agendas.  Just like you and I do where we are employed.


Does that mean for 1 child you wouldnt? I was pretty specific about what I said. I used the word "I" but I can try to be more specific than that. How about "me"?
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« Reply #126 on: April 28, 2005, 04:07:04 PM »
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of course, the fact that theres easier and less intrusive ways to go about finding these people means nothing.


Really? How do you propose catching an online predator without going through their internet stuff? Guess you can just tell who they are? What about using the net to read up on home-made bombs? Those are the kind of things I have no problem with losing some privacy over if it will save a life or prevent an abduction,rape, murder whatever.
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« Reply #127 on: April 28, 2005, 04:13:15 PM »
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Really? How do you propose catching an online predator without going through their internet stuff? Guess you can just tell who they are? What about using the net to read up on home-made bombs? Those are the kind of things I have no problem with losing some privacy over if it will save a life or prevent an abduction,rape, murder whatever.


same way we do it now, get there IP, locate them and go from there, this does not require any loss of personal privacy only that of companies providing the service.

as for homemade bombs, i do beleive most websites have connection logs.
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« Reply #128 on: April 28, 2005, 04:13:25 PM »
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Sorry Maverick,

You want I should beat around the bush for a few pages worth and make it a Liberals Polemic Fantisy so we can sit around and circle whang it for another few pages?


I have no freaking idea of what thought you were trying to convey with this collection of words.
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« Reply #129 on: April 28, 2005, 04:37:32 PM »
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same way we do it now, get there IP, locate them and go from there, this does not require any loss of personal privacy only that of companies providing the service.

as for homemade bombs, i do beleive most websites have connection logs.


And how do you propose finding out whose IP's to go after?
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« Reply #130 on: April 28, 2005, 04:55:19 PM »
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Then you should have to have your gun retested on a yearly basis. And if it is altered other than by normal wear, guess you should lose your gun. That is something I would be happy to let my taxes pay for.


Well... I've got 17 handguns and 6 long guns. I hope you would pay for the retesting...and my time, gas etc.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #131 on: April 28, 2005, 05:00:38 PM »
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Really? How do you propose catching an online predator without going through their internet stuff?


Well... my Wife works for the local Sherif's Dept. They have an online task force that trolls chat rooms etc. They even have a young looking female deputy talk to them on the phone and Meet them at the BUST.

Works pretty well.  

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« Reply #132 on: April 28, 2005, 05:04:40 PM »
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Well... I've got 17 handguns and 6 long guns. I hope you would pay for the retesting...and my time, gas etc.  :rolleyes:

Woof


Well mandatory testing so no problem using tax dollars to pay for it. Your time and gas? yeah right.

as for the online thing that is a pretty good way to do it.
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« Reply #133 on: April 28, 2005, 05:13:19 PM »
No end to the folks eager to waste someone else's money, is there?
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« Reply #134 on: April 28, 2005, 05:25:29 PM »
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No end to the folks eager to waste someone else's money, is there?


Let me get this right, You were against letting shiavo die because there was a chance she might not be brain dead, you are against letting women have abortions for whatever reason they choose because its not known when a fetus becomes a human, yet you are against anything to do with guns  that might possibly help stop or catch a murderer, except for more jail, (which doesnt stop the crime because its already been committed)? Is that all right? Seems very hypocritical to be so pro-life and  anti-anything that has to do with lowering the number of murders by firearms. Just an observation though.

By the way I pay taxes so its my money as well.
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