Why our kids are out of control

[Vulcan]

Man when I was a kid we were locked in the pit for 5 days without food and water or daylight for behaving like that. I still remember the smell of the other kids that never made it out alive, god bless their little souls.

[Torque]

what no Barbie-cuffs?

[Skydancer]

"So, what i am trying to say is that the constitution was always a peice of toilet paper, and quite frankly it is an insult to the intelligence of the common citizen. And as far as the others that are reading this in discust are concerned,...I am a patriot of this country, but only to it's people, and any duties that I may perform for the government at anytime, while I am still here, will be done to the best of my ability, for you, not the government"

The Kind of American I can understand and respect!

[Seagoon]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Man when I was a kid we were locked in the pit for 5 days without food and water or daylight for behaving like that. I still remember the smell of the other kids that never made it out alive, god bless their little souls.

Is that all? I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."
 
But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'

- SEAGOON

[Skydancer]

Cue the Music

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[SkyWolf]

Originally posted by vorticon
im more worried that your cops cant restrain a 5 year old without handcuffs.

You need to see the whole video and get the background before you say anything.
This Child was out of control on more than one occasion. The school attempted to disciplined her each time until her mother came in threatening them with a lawsuit. At THAT time she was told that if they were unable to "touch" her child then they would be forced to call  the police and have her removed from the school. The mother STILL refused to do anything about the little brat. That's why the cops were called, that's why the little brat was cuffed and hauled off. After watching the whole video I wish they would have tasered her oscar.

Woof

[CavemanJ]

Originally posted by midnight Target
She's freakin FIVE! And you think she needs to be beat up and pepper sprayed!?

Maybe later you can go out and kick some cripples.


LOL.

Pepper spray would be going too far, but that little brat damn sure needs a leather belt across her arse a few times.

I've got twin boys, who are 4 right now, and at thier worst they don't come close to this kinda crap.  And when they do start pushing, 9 times out of 10 I don't have to count past 2 before they straighten up, cause they know if I say 3 they're either standing in the corner or the belt is coming out, depending on what they were doing.

[Rob Cashman]

"the belt is coming out...."


Until they turn 10 and they pay you back (with interest!)

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/04/28/child.charged.ap/index.html

[myelo]

Originally posted by ChickenHawk
Your statement is true myelo but is seems that now things are much worse than ever before.

Nah, y'all are just getting old and crotchety.

I suggest increasing dietary fiber.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Swoop
Don't come to Britain, it's even worse here.


And if ya find some utopia somewhere....let me know.

Hey Swoop - did you see "Classroom Chaos" on C5 on Wednesday?

Worse still was "Supernanny", shown earlier in the week. It's about a woman who visits parents of difficult children, and tries to teach the parents how to control the children. There's all this crap about putting the kids in the "cooling off" area when they're bad, but when they did that, the kids threw a tantrum. The two children featured were 4 year old twins - brother & sister. When the boy was put in the cooling off area (a beanbag in a utility room off the kitchen) he yelled at his father thus: "F**k! F**k! F**k!!! F**k off, you f**ker!!" - all this, from a 4 year old boy. I remember thinking that there was nothing there that a good spanking wouldn't sort out, followed by being sent to bed and locked in the room. But no. Smacking is verboten these days. So parents give in to tantrums, and demands from kids who want DVDs, MP3 players, mobile phones... Today's children seem to have learnt that throwing a tantrum will get them the things they want. I want, therefore I get seems to be the maxim of today's children. I hate them, and I'm glad I never had any.

[ASTAC]

Originally posted by beet1e
Hey Swoop - did you see "Classroom Chaos" on C5 on Wednesday?

Worse still was "Supernanny", shown earlier in the week. It's about a woman who visits parents of difficult children, and tries to teach the parents how to control the children. There's all this crap about putting the kids in the "cooling off" area when they're bad, but when they did that, the kids threw a tantrum. The two children featured were 4 year old twins - brother & sister. When the boy was put in the cooling off area (a beanbag in a utility room off the kitchen) he yelled at his father thus: "F**k! F**k! F**k!!! F**k off, you f**ker!!" - all this, from a 4 year old boy. I remember thinking that there was nothing there that a good spanking wouldn't sort out, followed by being sent to bed and locked in the room. But no. Smacking is verboten these days. So parents give in to tantrums, and demands from kids who want DVDs, MP3 players, mobile phones... Today's children seem to have learnt that throwing a tantrum will get them the things they want. I want, therefore I get seems to be the maxim of today's children. I hate them, and I'm glad I never had any.

We have supernanny and nanny 911 on here in the states....we tried thaat crap and it doesn't work. I'm just learning to ignore the tantrums..but the problem is what to do when they do stuff like take the fake wood out of the gas fireplace (like happened last night).

[midnight Target]

Timeouts don't work when the only attention the kid gets is a time out. The best defense against an unruly kid is to recognize them when they are good.

[Maverick]

MT,

Actually you are half right. You need to recognize that reinforcement of both types of behavior will be more effective. Recognizing good behavior and praising it is half the job. Giving negative reinforcement (punishment) for bad acts completes the cycle. After the punishment, a reiteration as to why the punishment was given and a reafirmation that the parent loves the child should help cement the lesson.

Rather sterile way to say that a child comes into the world uncivilized and not house broken. They need training, education and love from parents to allow them to live in a world populated by other human beings.

[midnight Target]

Agreed Mav, however, since punishment is the opposite of praise, the withholding of attention can be significant punishment only when it is truely the opposite of normal daily events..

In other words, the more we recognize the good stuff, the more punishment can be effective as simply the lack of that recognition (Time Out).

[Stratocaster]

ASTAC what do u have up your arnold