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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2005, 04:03:37 AM »
Nothing to do with a knockoff, it's a completely independent design...only thing similar is the powerplant...
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2005, 06:21:27 AM »
It has a slight resemblance to LaGG-3, doesn't it?

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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2005, 09:41:18 PM »
It has same scoops, same upsidown motor concept. same armament. So it is to a degree a knockoff, an upgrade perhaps a better word.

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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2005, 07:29:01 AM »
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It has same scoops, same upsidown motor concept. same armament. So it is to a degree a knockoff, an upgrade perhaps a better word.



So does this, but if you call it a 109 knock-off you might upset the Spit dweebs :D

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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2005, 10:42:50 AM »
Um not exactly. not same scoops, no armament.

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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2005, 11:00:50 AM »
The Finnish fighter does NOT have the same oil cooler and radiator scoops as the 109. It has the same engine and prop. So in your mind the Spitfire is a knock-off of the Hurricane? Same engine and prop. Same armament.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2005, 12:03:04 PM »
If you have a look at the photo of finnish plane you can see scoops are same placement & design as 109.

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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2005, 01:01:43 PM »
109 rocks.
3rd rate countries can't copy 109 well-see Hispanos, Avias variants of the 109.
so this finnish fighter prolly sucks bellybutton too.

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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2005, 09:15:11 PM »
Actually no, it could outclimb & outmaeuver G-6. the ones made in Czeclosovakia & Spain did not have right props or motors, but the Finnish one did.

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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2005, 09:20:28 PM »
same engine and prop, but larger wing...
that wing had to be draggier and heavier than that of the 109.
they say it had the same speed as a G6, but I cal BS.


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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2005, 09:21:28 PM »
Spit had larger wing, & it was not heavier & draggier.

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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2005, 09:29:21 PM »
spit had an elliptical wing. that's different.

Also, I am a little confused. there's another Finnish fighter called Myrsky, has a radial engine but the landing gear arrangement looks a lot like that of the Pyörremyrsky, I wonder if the wing is the same.

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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2005, 10:08:13 PM »
Still bigger.

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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2005, 10:09:58 PM »
but elliptical. that's the best wing, cause it has minimal induced drag.