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Joker312 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 06, 2005, 08:56:44 PM »

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Originally posted by mora
LOL

I'm sure you aware that The Netherlands has drastically lower levels of drug abuse, especially conserning Heroin and likes?

Don't make a fool out of yourself.

Mora, abuse in a country where its legal is hard to determine. Who keeps records on missed work, accidents, health costs related to long term recreational use of those drugs, ect? It seems the only fool here is the one without an open mind who can not see there are hidden costs to even legal use of drugs.

And BTW I totally agree with that policy. If people want to kill themselves with drugs, it shouldnt be against the law. Alcohol and nicotine cost governments much more in long term health costs.

So did you take the handle Mora as short for Moron?

Joker312 · « **Reply #61 on:** May 06, 2005, 09:06:15 PM »

Angus,

I was just trying to have a exchange with GS. I welcome any comments that are meant to enlighten the parties involved. You are more than welcome to participate in this forum.

Now thats its totally degenerated to a flame fest I am going to call it quits on this topic.

I still maintain that the US is hands down the best place to live on earth and the Isreali's are wrong to sell arms to China.

Have fun all.

SkyWolf · « **Reply #62 on:** May 06, 2005, 09:41:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Joker312
An insecure jew has reared his ugly head.

What makes you think that I'm Jewish?

You have no right to accuse me of anti anything. I have already been corrected on that sub thing. I was mistaken.
Yes but you certainly wanted to believe it didn't you? You sure spat it out with a certain unsettling amount of venom.

But why tell me to pull down my skirt? I am neither a woman or a Scot. You wouldnt be queer would you?
No.. but I am a Scott.

Why is it when anyone questions the motives of Isreal its anti-semitism?

Because it usually comes from an anti-Semite.

I would love to meet you someday

Look who's queer now.

Wolf, you would see how wrong you are. In person you would see I treat everyone with the respect they deserve.

Well... amazingly enough I have no desire to meet you. I don't as a rule surround myself with close minded bigots...no matter how much they claim to be just the opposite.

Woof

SkyWolf · « **Reply #63 on:** May 06, 2005, 09:43:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Joker312

I still maintain that the US is hands down the best place to live on earth

So do I... I just find it unfortunate that the USA is represented by so many people like you. It makes the rest of the world believe the worst of all of us.

Woof

GScholz · « **Reply #64 on:** May 07, 2005, 04:03:20 AM »

Joker, it wasn't Israel. It was Norway's Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk and Japan's Toshiba that sold the Soviets propeller and computer tech to quiet their subs. Of course, this was not legal sales and people had to stand trial for espionage.

Angus · « **Reply #65 on:** May 07, 2005, 04:31:40 AM »

Hmmm, Joker:
I still maintain that the US is hands down the best place to live on earth."

There are many good places. Norway for instance. And little Iceland, where I live is very good. Unemployment, - what's that? Crime rate, what's that? Well, I don't even lock the house or bother to take the car keys out! (Think they're probably stuck in the switch by now).
Have you travelled or lived outside the US? For it's a big assumption that it's the best place.
I for myself have not been to the US, but all over Europe, - and belive me, in Europe there are many very good places.
One of my neighbours was from the US. Left the country, - said it sucked. I was trying to debate with him about that actually, for the US is a big place, and has lots of variety.
So, does it boil down to "What place in the US do you refer to"??
Guess so

mora · « **Reply #66 on:** May 07, 2005, 05:01:39 AM »

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Originally posted by Joker312
Mora, abuse in a country where its legal is hard to determine. Who keeps records on missed work, accidents, health costs related to long term recreational use of those drugs, ect? It seems the only fool here is the one without an open mind who can not see there are hidden costs to even legal use of drugs.

Drug use is more documented and researched in the Netherlands than anywhere else in the world. Of course they have their problems too, but the levels of drug abuse are lower, and the problems even more so because of the harm reduction policy.

Anyway there's no ideal solution to the drug problem, but the Dutch are doing pretty well when compared to other western countries. Anyway, this isn't the subject here anyway. Your needless personal attack against Bug was what brought this up.

Flyboy · « **Reply #67 on:** May 07, 2005, 05:43:20 AM »

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And heres another good story.... In the IAF fighter pilots were the most highly regarded military personel. Now its the IAF Patriot battery operators. Ask an Israeli.

you are wrong, very wrong.

and as for the lavi coppied form the F16.
it may share a few exterior traits with the F16. but show me 1 plane from the 80'-90' that doesnt have a similarity to some other plane.
but if you look inside... a whole different story.
all its avionics are israely designed, more then 6000 technicians and engineers where working on the project, maybe not much in US standarts, but in israel its a unprecedented number.
infact alot attribute the hitech boom that israel had in the 90's to the fact that those people where released to the private sector, after the project was canceled.

so no, its not US tech that we sold to the chinese, it was ours.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #68 on:** May 07, 2005, 12:38:27 PM »

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Mora, abuse in a country where its legal is hard to determine. Who keeps records on missed work, accidents, health costs related to long term recreational use of those drugs, ect? It seems the only fool here is the one without an open mind who can not see there are hidden costs to even legal use of drugs.

lol

illigal use is easier to determine huh ??

missed work -none

accident- non i even examined on 1 joint

health cost- hmm i got maybe the flu 1 time a year thats it

i use since my 15th i don't reccomend
but i dont reccomend cigarettes and alcohol either.

drugs uhmmm.... how a bout take a look at alcohol.

yes where open minded relativate things and stuff

Angus · « **Reply #69 on:** May 07, 2005, 04:36:50 PM »

Bear in mind that the Israeli population today is about the same as killed jews during ww2.
Also bear in mind that that number is but a quarter or less of the population of New York and surrondings.

Always good to keep the bearings and the perspective right, Ay

Joker312 · « **Reply #70 on:** May 07, 2005, 07:57:35 PM »

Wolf I believe your a liar. If you are a Scot you wouldnot have spelled it Scott. You step up and start trash talking with nothing to add to the conversation.

Pathetic. Why are you ashamed to be known as Jewish? You jump in to call me a bigot and then you lie.

Your not worth the time.

Joker312 · « **Reply #71 on:** May 07, 2005, 08:01:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Flyboy
you are wrong, very wrong.

and as for the lavi coppied form the F16.
it may share a few exterior traits with the F16. but show me 1 plane from the 80'-90' that doesnt have a similarity to some other plane.
but if you look inside... a whole different story.
all its avionics are israely designed, more then 6000 technicians and engineers where working on the project, maybe not much in US standarts, but in israel its a unprecedented number.
infact alot attribute the hitech boom that israel had in the 90's to the fact that those people where released to the private sector, after the project was canceled.

so no, its not US tech that we sold to the chinese, it was ours.

I did some research on the Patriot System and it seems I am wrong. The latest story out is the Army exaggerated their clams and the sucess rate was closer to 50%.

If what your saying is true FB then I dont have a problem at all.

Thanks for the info.

GScholz · « **Reply #72 on:** May 07, 2005, 08:08:08 PM »

Even 50% is an exaggeration, and this has been known since 1991.

Joker312 · « **Reply #73 on:** May 07, 2005, 08:08:57 PM »

Anyway there's no ideal solution to the drug problem, but the Dutch are doing pretty well when compared to other western countries. Anyway, this isn't the subject here anyway. Your needless personal attack against Bug was what brought this up. [/B][/QUOTE]

I have read some about the drug laws there. I am sure its as you say and works quite well. But why have a "harm reduction policy"
if there is no harm, being done.

And I was wrong to lash out at Bug, I just dont like being called a "fool" and a "bigot" for having ideas and beliefs different than someone else.

Whats funny is that because I made a comment I have learned things about other countries, peoples, and such that I wouldnt have if I didnt post my feelings. Not totally a bad thing if you know what I mean.

Take care.

SkyWolf · « **Reply #74 on:** May 07, 2005, 10:55:58 PM »

Originally posted by Joker312
Wolf I believe your a liar. If you are a Scot you wouldnot have spelled it Scott.

Well... my mother was half Scottish. Her maiden name and my middle name are the same. McCollum. You figure it out. And it's you're.

You step up and start trash talking with nothing to add to the conversation.

Just want people to know that not everyone in the USA is like you.

Pathetic. Why are you ashamed to be known as Jewish? You jump in to call me a bigot and then you lie.

I'm not Jewish you freakin' idiot.

Your not worth the time.

It's "you're". A contraction... made from the words "you" and "are". As in you're ignorant.

Woof