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lazs2 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 06, 2005, 08:12:44 AM »

snow bear.. ice bear... strippers... kids...

What's the difference?

lazs

culero · « **Reply #31 on:** May 06, 2005, 08:27:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
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If parents are having a problem with this, they need to step in at the school board level and deal with it. There is no way it should go any higher than that.

It is a firm sign of the lack of leadership from our local and state government, where they use exploitive measures to get thier own names in front of the people.

Nail on the head.

No matter whether you agree or disagree that its not acceptable for high school cheerleaders to be allowed to act in sexually suggestive ways as a part of their school-related public exhibitions, it should be obvious that what we have here is blatant publicity whoring going on in the Texas Legislature.

I am so disgusted with these bastards that I can't properly express myself about it. Its not just this issue, its many other things they've done in recent years. Both sides (Republicans and Democrats) in our Legislature are worthless, IMO. If it were up to me, I'd disband the government immediately, including Governor Perry, and start from scratch.

That said, I would be against cheerleaders in my home school district being lewd in their performances, strictly because they are of an age that makes it inappropriate. Its not the same as child pornography, but it sniffs at the borderline of that area. I'd want the teachers and coaches in my home school district to teach their charges routines that avoided blatant sexuality so that there is no suggestion that its OK for youths to act that way in front of adults, and that there is no suggestion that its OK for adults to watch youths acting that way.

But I firmly believe Skuzzy is right, this is an example of an issue that should be decided and handled at the community level. I don't want the state or other communities telling my community how to act, and don't presume we should decide for anyone else.

culero

lazs2 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 06, 2005, 08:32:11 AM »

I would agree also but... Not all parents are strong enough to fight their children and society..

What you gonna do? say no? Isn't that some form of child abuse these days... allmost like.... like... when barbarians swatted their kids to keep them behaving?

lazs

Edbert1 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 06, 2005, 09:12:40 AM »

This is emabarassing to most Texans, our legislature only meets for a few months every other year (one reason it is still a great place to live if you ask me) and when they meet they discuss crap like this instead of things that actually matter. FYI, it was a liberal Democrat from East Texas that sponsored this bill.

john9001 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 06, 2005, 11:27:04 AM »

i dated a cheerleader in high school, mmmm, those were the days.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #35 on:** May 06, 2005, 12:28:22 PM »

It is now law, by a slim margin. I have not felt this disgusted since the last time our state Congress was in session.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #36 on:** May 06, 2005, 12:28:42 PM »

A slight difference here.

Your talking ADULT strippers in private clubs Vrs
Teenage and sometimes younger CHILDREN performing in a highly sexualy suggestive way in public.

I am in no way what anyone here or many other places would consider a sexual prude (often to my wifes dismay:D )

But there is no way I think kids should be allowed to perform in the way some of them do these days And I think it is totally innproperiate for teenagers to be allowed to hump or otherwise suggest they are fondling themselves sexually in a school or otherwise public forum.

I've seen some of this watermelon first hand and thats about the best way to descibe what these kids are doing that has people in an uproar.

I support both the Norway Ruling and the vote in Texas.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #37 on:** May 06, 2005, 12:32:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy

I do not think it is a proper way to act in public, but abhor the idea of the state attempting to regulate it.

I would think if the school boards did a better job of regulating it themselves there woudlnt have been a need of state interference no?

Skuzzy · « **Reply #38 on:** May 06, 2005, 12:59:02 PM »

Interference from the state should have been in the form of pushing it back to the school board's of the local districts and mandating they take care of it.

The action taken by the state is way out of line.

Basically, the parents do not want to do anything about the kids, and now the school board's do not want to do anything about the kids. Where the shizz does it stop?

Airhead · « **Reply #39 on:** May 06, 2005, 02:23:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Saintaw
I think we had a preview of this a couple months ago at Checksix

Yeah, and the same Euros that missed the point then will miss the point now....

Obviously a strip club is an appropiate venue for- well, stripping and lewd behavior, whereas a high school football game isn't.

Try as you might to twist this...."comparison" into a question of personal freedom, but you're comparing apples and oranges here, unless the Oslo Courts have ruled lewd and lacivious behavior is an acceptable public display at sporting events.

Nilsen · « **Reply #40 on:** May 06, 2005, 02:24:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Airhead
Yeah, and the same Euros that missed the point then will miss the point now....

Obviously a strip club is an appropiate venue for- well, stripping and lewd behavior, whereas a high school football game isn't.

Try as you might to twist this...."comparison" into a question of personal freedom, but you're comparing apples and oranges here, unless the Oslo Courts have ruled lewd and lacivious behavior is an acceptable public display at sporting events.

I would venture to say that soccer is lewd and lacivious behavior... and thats allowed.

Dowding · « **Reply #41 on:** May 06, 2005, 02:34:14 PM »

Anybody seen "Trailer Park Boys"? I swear some inspiration is taken from this board.

Torque · « **Reply #42 on:** May 06, 2005, 02:34:20 PM »

kids these days have all the luck

WMLute · « **Reply #43 on:** May 06, 2005, 02:51:27 PM »

Go back 50yrs. Elvis's hip swinging was considered lewd. Many of the dances in that day, which would now be considered prudish, were considered obscene. Wasn't Cubby Checkers "the Twist" considered Devil dancing by some?

Times change. Values change. What was considered "over the top" 20 years ago is mild by today’s standards.

I am not at all advocating High School girls suggestively doing cheers, and I also agree that this is a school board issue, vs. a state law.

BUT keep it in perspective. 50yrs from now they will probably laugh at that law wondering when the Amish took over the TX legislature.

(edit) no offence to any Amish who might feel insulted at being compared to a Texas State Legislator

Skuzzy · « **Reply #44 on:** May 06, 2005, 02:57:44 PM »

No sense in insulting the Amish by comparing them to what we have elected into office here.