Author Topic: A few religious question for catholics. (Read 11407 times)

NUKE · « **Reply #240 on:** May 07, 2005, 09:53:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
You won't have to ask me for the next five pages, because I won't crawfish and try to hide an obvious inconsistency by saying "waaahh! No fair!! I don't know!"

The answer to your question is no.

See how easy it is? Yes or No.

Give it a try.

So you are saying that if you cannot go to heaven if you reject Jesus as Savior?

Toad · « **Reply #241 on:** May 07, 2005, 09:55:51 PM »

LOL, you really are amazing.

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Definitions of opinion on the Web:

a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty; "my opinion differs from yours"; "what are your thoughts on Haiti?"

You're absolutely judging them.

Man, I'm beginning to think you share a rather singular classification with Zulu7.

NUKE · « **Reply #242 on:** May 07, 2005, 09:56:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
See how easy it is? Yes or No.

Give it a try.

Okay, then I have a great question for you. Is an aborted baby, or someone who has never heard of Jesus going to Heaven?

Is a person who has never heard the word going to heaven? Yes or no Toad. Should be easy.

NUKE · « **Reply #243 on:** May 07, 2005, 09:59:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
LOL, you really are amazing.

You're absolutely judging them.

Man, I'm beginning to think you share a rather singular classification with Zulu7.

So, if you have an opinion that Liberals are not correct regarding any given policy, you are judging them? Come on Toad.

Toad · « **Reply #244 on:** May 07, 2005, 10:00:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
You won't have to ask me for the next five pages, because I won't crawfish and try to hide an obvious inconsistency by saying "waaahh! No fair!! I don't know!"

The answer to your question is no.

See how easy it is? Yes or No.

Give it a try.

You CAN read, can't you?

Now it's your turn. No more "I don't know".

Do you believe that aborted babies can go to heaven without confessing with their mouth the Lord Jesus?

Go, Crawfish, go!

NUKE · « **Reply #245 on:** May 07, 2005, 10:03:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
You CAN read, can't you?

No, you didn't answer my yes or no question. You stiplulated a yes or no answer for the first time in this thread, and now refuse to live up to your own standard.

Yes or No: Is an aborted fetus or a person who has never heard the word going to heaven? Yes or no, just like you demand.

Toad · « **Reply #246 on:** May 07, 2005, 10:04:57 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
Okay, then I have a great question for you. Is an aborted baby, or someone who has never heard of Jesus going to Heaven?

Is a person who has never heard the word going to heaven? Yes or no Toad. Should be easy.

It is easy.

Aborted babies absolutely. They cannot possibly have done wrong in this world.

Someone who never heard of Jesus? Yes, absolutely if they have followed the "two commandments".

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Matt 22:36-40

36 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?"

37 Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'

38 This is the first and greatest commandment.

39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'

40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

If such a person loves his God (and as I explained there is only ONE for all of us) and loved his neighbor as himself he would most certainly go to heaven.

He has complied with Jesus' two greatest commandments.

Bet that just twists your knickers.

Now, see if you have the courage to answer the same question yes or no.

NUKE · « **Reply #247 on:** May 07, 2005, 10:07:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
It is easy.

Aborted babies absolutely. They cannot possibly have done wrong in this world.

Someone who never heard of Jesus? Yes, absolutely if they have followed the "two commandments".

If such a person loves his God (and as I explained there is only ONE for all of us) and loved his neighbor as himself he would most certainly go to heaven.

He has complied with Jesus' two greatest commandments.

Bet that just twists your knickers.

Now, see if you have the courage to answer the same question yes or no.

How do you know that an aborted fetus is going to heaven? Does the bible say that, or do you just "feel" that?

And you just told me that anybody who hasn't heard the word is going to heaven, then added an *if* statement. What if the person lived alone in a cave, never talked to one person?

Isn't that nice, your own answer is pretty much the same as mine. You have no Idea if they are going to heaven.

Toad · « **Reply #248 on:** May 07, 2005, 10:08:40 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
No, you didn't answer my yes or no question. You stiplulated a yes or no answer for the first time in this thread, and now refuse to live up to your own standard.

Yes or No: Is an aborted fetus or a person who has never heard the word going to heaven? Yes or no, just like you demand.

You are quite a simpleton.

I answered your first question

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Take you for instance, having been exposed to the word and Jesus. If you live a a good life, do the will of God and love your neighbor, can you reject Jesus as your Savior and still go to heaven?

with a clear "no".

I just answered your second question

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Is an aborted baby, or someone who has never heard of Jesus going to Heaven?

with a yes.

Are you stoned or something? Are you having trouble keeping track of what you say?

BTW, you are judging someone's relationship with God. I think that's a bit different than opposing a political viewpoint. But I'm not surprised you can't see it.

NUKE · « **Reply #249 on:** May 07, 2005, 10:11:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
You are quite a simpleton.

I answered your first question

with a clear "no".

I just answered your second question

with a yes.

Are you stoned or something? Are you having trouble keeping track of what you say?

BTW, you are judging someone's relationship with God. I think that's a bit different than opposing a political viewpoint. But I'm not surprised you can't see it.

So, you believe that unless you accept Jesus as your savior, you are going to hell.

And, having an opinion about weather someone's belief is correct or not judging them. By your definition, you are judgimg me .

Drunky · « **Reply #250 on:** May 07, 2005, 10:15:23 PM »

Thank you Wotan...that actually helped quite a bit to answer most of my questions.

Toad · « **Reply #251 on:** May 07, 2005, 10:17:37 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
How do you know that an aborted fetus is going to heaven? Does the bible say that, or do you just "feel" that?

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I've never found a reference to aborted babies in the bible, have you? I HAVE found reference to an all merciful and just God. From that I KNOW he wouldn't punish the unborn.

All reference to sin is made with "born" as a qualifier. Gotta be born to sin... that clears the aborted ones.

So yep, I KNOW that. That's the God I worship. Not one that sends unborn children to eternal damnation.

You still don't have the balls to answer the same question yes or no.

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And you just told me that anybody who hasn't heard the word is going to heaven, then added an *if* statement. What if the person lived alone in a cave, never talked to one person?

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Here one more time real slowly because I can see you have trouble.

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'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'

(take a deep breath, Nuke)

38 This is the first and greatest commandment.

(take a deep breath, Nuke)

39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'

(take a deep breath, Nuke)

40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.

Do those two things and you have complied with what Jesus considered the two most important things.

So, did the caveman do these things? If so, he's in.

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Isn't that nice, your own answer is pretty much the same as mine. You have no Idea if they are going to heaven.

Not at all. I have a firm idea. Unlike you who can't see the obvious contradiction in your statement about who can and can't get into heaven.

You really aren't worth the candle, Nuke. You just don't have what it takes to debate.

So, I'm off to bed.

Study hard. Maybe you'll be able to make a valid argument some day.

Toad · « **Reply #252 on:** May 07, 2005, 10:22:01 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
So, you believe that unless you accept Jesus as your savior, you are going to hell.

And, having an opinion about weather someone's belief is correct or not judging them. By your definition, you are judgimg me .

You left out your own caveat poseur.

Look at the WHOLE question you asked and then edited to suit your purpose:

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Take you for instance, having been exposed to the word and Jesus. If you live a a good life, do the will of God and love your neighbor, can you reject Jesus as your Savior and still go to heaven?

having been exposed to the word and Jesus is key here. And THAT'S what I answered, no your abridged version.

Putz. Now you even have to argue dishonestly.

NUKE · « **Reply #253 on:** May 07, 2005, 10:22:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad

I've never found a reference to aborted babies in the bible, have you? IStudy hard. Maybe you'll be able to make a valid argument some day. [/B]

LOL, you pretend to KNOW about what happens, yet there is no reference in the Bible? You are the one who has been asking about aborted babies.

I have had a more realistic answer: I don't KNOW, but that God is Fair and Just.

Go to bed you hypocrite.

You have been exposed to the word, so the ONLY way you are going to heaven is to accept Jesus as your Savior. Suck it up Mr Hypocrite.

Toad · « **Reply #254 on:** May 07, 2005, 10:25:41 PM »

No, Putz, I KNOW precisely because God is Fair and Just.

I know because reference to sin in the bible goes hand and hand with "man born of woman" . Aborted babies arent' born.

God gave you a mind, try to use it.

That's an insult. It's the Jewish word for a Fool or an Idiot. You earned it in this thread.