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« Reply #300 on: May 08, 2005, 10:53:46 AM »
MOST excellent reads wotan.  I really, REALLY hope Nuke takes the time to read everything at both links, prints it out, and takes it to his preacher for discussion.

Good job


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« Reply #301 on: May 08, 2005, 11:01:09 AM »
In the bible according to Toad, I guess God didn't really need to send Jesus to earth. It didn't really serve a purpose, did it Toad

Everyone is going to heaven in Toads version, as long as they live by two of the ten commandments.
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« Reply #302 on: May 08, 2005, 11:07:09 AM »
A quote from the bible scholar, Toad. Less than a year ago

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I've never been big on organized religion, finding my truths in the cathedrals of the outdoors. It seems to me that the beauty I find, the intricately entertwined balance of nature and the chaotic order therein cannot possibly be purely by chance.

So while I am not of a particular religion, I am indeed a "believer". The personal proofs I have found in the universe around me were all the convincing that I needed.


Toad, you seem to have  your own truths and understanding about God and his word, yet you mock me for mine.

Now, you Toad, know all about the bible and are able to mock another person's beliefs.

Toad, from the very begining of your input into this thread, your intent was not to enlighten me or anyone else or explain what you beleived. Your intent was to "wax" me and mock my understanding of the bible and my beliefs.
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« Reply #303 on: May 08, 2005, 11:15:32 AM »
Give it up Nuke. No one believes you to be the victim in this thread.

It is you who started this thread to 'wax' Catholics and 'mock their understanding of the bible and their beliefs'.

For that matter not only have done it this thread but many others.

You cast the first stone if anyhting. Now butch up and take your medicine like a man.
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« Reply #304 on: May 08, 2005, 11:17:27 AM »
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Which would mean they are breaking one of those two commandments cited by your Lord and Savior in that text.

Are you getting it now?


You are the one who doesn't get it, Toad. Jesus came to earth in order to provide a perfect sacrifice, so that man would not have to go to hell for not being able to live by the ten commandments.

No man can perfectly obey the ten commandments. Jesus died for our sins.

You cannot obey the ten commandmenst Toad, impossible not to break them. Just what in your mind do you think was the whole point of Jesus comming to earth?
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« Reply #305 on: May 08, 2005, 11:19:40 AM »
No, you're just a sneak. You snipe from cover but you snipe all the same. Not just this thread.

I'm out in the open about it. You're either a troll or you can't handle either side of debating in a coherent manner.

Old "joke" Nuke that like all good jokes has a big chunk of truth at it's heart.

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"If one person calls you a horse's ass, laugh it off. If two people two people call you a horse's ass, be reflective and evaluate your behavior. If three people call you a horse's ass, buy a saddle."


Want to take a poll on this BBS and see how many and what response you get on that?
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« Reply #306 on: May 08, 2005, 11:21:10 AM »
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It didn't really serve a purpose, did it Toad

 


What really doesn't serve any purpose is trying to help an idiot. I'm sorry I even tried.
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« Reply #307 on: May 08, 2005, 11:23:28 AM »
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Give it up Nuke. No one believes you to be the victim in this thread.

It is you who started this thread to 'wax' Catholics and 'mock their understanding of the bible and their beliefs'.

For that matter not only have done it this thread but many others.

You cast the first stone if anyhting. Now butch up and take your medicine like a man.


Look at all my posts in this thread. I have asked why the Catholics did certain things, then when someone gave a good answer, I stopped. I didn't badger anyone or mock thier beliefs.

Now look at Toads responses to me, from about page one. Nothing civil about them. He came with the intent of bashing my beliefs and understanding of the bible.

And, as I have said before in this thread, I can take the responses. Toad seems to be the one who "badgered" in this thread, now he seems to be the one who can't handle it.....as he put me on ignore apparently.

In fact, this thread would only be about half as long if not for Toad alone. I appoligized to Grunhurz for comming across poorly regarding Catholics. Toad is the one who went after me personally.
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« Reply #308 on: May 08, 2005, 11:27:09 AM »
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What really doesn't serve any purpose is trying to help an idiot. I'm sorry I even tried.


Yeah, off to Church soon? Nice attitude.

You really came into this thread with the intent to help me, Toad. You are a truely compassionate person. Do you usually beging helping people by mocking them?
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« Reply #309 on: May 08, 2005, 11:27:09 AM »
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Now, you Toad, know all about the bible and are able to mock another person's beliefs.

 


You are familiar with the story of Saul on the road to Tsarsus? Well, things change and so have I. As I said before, I'm pretty sure I have good reason to study this salvation thing a whole lot more closely than you do at this point in time.

Nuke, from the very starting of this thread by you, your intent was not to enlighten me or anyone else or explain what you believed. Your intent was to "wax" Catholics and mock their rites their understanding of the bible and their beliefs.

I'm not mocking your beliefs. I don't mock anyone's beliefs. You seem to feel that pointing out your obvious self contradictions is mocking you. Just shows you have no clue about anything, really.

You don't see yourself as mocking Muslims and Jews when you say their going to hell for their beliefs, do you?

And you toss around the word hypocrite. It's obvious you have no clue what it means or no self-awareness.

You're free to believe as you like. I don't care a whit what or how you believe and worship. But when you use your beliefs to mock other religions, I'll always confront your hypocrisy.
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« Reply #310 on: May 08, 2005, 11:28:45 AM »
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You are the one who doesn't get it, Toad.  


LOL.

Despite Lute, Wotan and others besides myself attempting to help you, you still have no clue about the concept expressed there.

A good preacher could really help you.
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« Reply #311 on: May 08, 2005, 11:32:03 AM »
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Yeah, off to Church soon? Nice attitude.


Been to church already, Nuke. Made my peace with the fact that you are an idiot and I know what to do now.

You been to church today?

No, I guess not.  :rofl

I suggest you ask Seagoon to give you a hand. I respect his views a lot, I think he's a good source. Lute can help you quite a bit too, I think.

I can't help you. Your history of sniping people here has poisoned the well.

So, welcome to my ignore list. You and Zulu7 make a fine pair.
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« Reply #312 on: May 08, 2005, 11:32:42 AM »
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You are familiar with the story of Saul on the road to Tsarsus? Well, things change and so have I. As I said before, I'm pretty sure I have good reason to study this salvation thing a whole lot more closely than you do at this point in time.

Nuke, from the very starting of this thread by you, your intent was not to enlighten me or anyone else or explain what you believed. Your intent was to "wax" Catholics and mock their rites their understanding of the bible and their beliefs.

I'm not mocking your beliefs. I don't mock anyone's beliefs. You seem to feel that pointing out your obvious self contradictions is mocking you. Just shows you have no clue about anything, really.

You don't see yourself as mocking Muslims and Jews when you say their going to hell for their beliefs, do you?

And you toss around the word hypocrite. It's obvious you have no clue what it means or no self-awareness.

You're free to believe as you like. I don't care a whit what or how you believe and worship. But when you use your beliefs to mock other religions, I'll always confront your hypocrisy.


Fair enough, Toad, just don't try to come off as a bible scholar, then tell me I have a child's understanding of the bible

I didn't pretend to start this thread to "enlighten" you or anyone else. I wanted to hear from Catholics. I wanted to hear thier reasons for doing the things I asked about.

Why did you come into, and stay in this thread?

And you did mock me and my beliefs. You did from the begining. You said that I have a child's understanding of the bible. You said that I self-interpret the bible.

You have no clue of my understanding of the bible.
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« Reply #313 on: May 08, 2005, 11:40:04 AM »
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You don't see yourself as mocking Muslims and Jews when you say their going to hell for their beliefs, do you?


I have not mocked them. I have said I believe that nobody will go to heaven without accepting Jesus.

How does that mock them? They can believe whatever they want, and I would never mock them for their beliefs.

You said that if someone was exposed to the word, that they could not get into heaven without accepting that Jesus was thier savior, correct?
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« Reply #314 on: May 08, 2005, 11:43:41 AM »
Toad, you have said that if someone was exposed to the word, that they would have to accept Jesus as their savior in order to get into heaven.

Well, why would you mock the Muslims and the Jews like that?
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