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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #135 on: May 11, 2005, 10:09:44 PM »
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I have often said, "what comes around, goes around".  I have no idea what I did, but it must be right up there with being the creator of Barney, or something.


I have it on good authority that you created the TeleTubbies.
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« Reply #136 on: May 12, 2005, 01:11:03 AM »
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Well for one his ban of condoms and contraception. And the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives through the spread of AIDS.


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For one, the Pope never twisted anyones arm to have sex. Second the Pope (and the Bible) say premarital sex is not to be engaged in. They also say to not engage in affairs. If you follow the first two, aids is never a problem. Blaming the Pope for hundreds of thousands of aids victims is rediculous.
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« Reply #137 on: May 12, 2005, 01:17:16 AM »
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Why did God create man?

 



Who says he did?  There's absolutely no evidence to support that claim.  



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« Reply #138 on: May 12, 2005, 07:03:56 AM »
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I have it on good authority that you created the TeleTubbies.

Now that is just wrong.  Although,...how about the BBTubbies? :D
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« Reply #139 on: May 12, 2005, 04:36:27 PM »
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For one, the Pope never twisted anyones arm to have sex. Second the Pope (and the Bible) say premarital sex is not to be engaged in. They also say to not engage in affairs. If you follow the first two, aids is never a problem. Blaming the Pope for hundreds of thousands of aids victims is rediculous.



More rediculous is your expectation of people to follow those rules. Maybe you should visit Sao Paulo and see for yourself  the effects that the Popes rule is having on the people there.

And yes it's easy to blame the Pope for 100,000's AIDS victims and history will record it as his bigges mistake.


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« Reply #140 on: May 12, 2005, 04:52:10 PM »
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Who says he did?  There's absolutely no evidence to support that claim.  



ack-ack


Origins by  their very nature can be examined only by inference; no matter how things started, no  one was there to see it (if you a priori leave a god out of the equation).

SO proof isnt really the appropriate standard.

However, a question: entropy, a basic and unchallengeable principle of physics, shows that closed systems move from states of higher energy and complexity to lower states of both.

Assuming that the known universe is a closed system, without outside interference, how does life tehn move from lower states of complexity containing smaller reserves of organized energy to higher states of each?

Just askin
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« Reply #141 on: May 12, 2005, 04:58:23 PM »
How many years ago was God suppose to of created man anyway? Of course assuming we are talking about "the" God as all other gods don't exist in their eyes. :lol


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« Reply #142 on: May 12, 2005, 05:04:17 PM »
This has gone way off topic, but what the hey.....

If you want proof of anything regarding the origin of the universe or God, you are not going to get it in your lifetime

The way I  look at it, there are only two explanations for the existence of all matter.

1. it always existed
2. it was created from nothing.

Science cannot explain in any logical way either example. When someone does try to explain either one of those examples, they sound just as "crazy" as someone who believes God created the universe.

Chew on that.
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« Reply #143 on: May 12, 2005, 05:21:03 PM »
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OK lets see, I'll ask two.

1) What is your response if I answer YES to your question of:

Do you believe that matter can be created?

2) What is your response if I answer NO to your question of:

Do you believe that matter can be created?



If you say yes, that matter can be created, then I'd have to ask how or where that has ever been proven.

If you say no, that matter cannot be created, I'd have to ask how science can account for or explain the existence of matter.

My point being that science has no asnwer for either that makes any sense. I wasn't trying to corner you into a position.

It goes back to my belief that it's just as logical to belief that God created all matter as it is to belief any other explanation.
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« Reply #144 on: May 12, 2005, 05:39:15 PM »
No Nuke.

You see quantum theory mathemetically predicted that it would be possible to have particles appear out of nothing.

When the technologyu came about, experiments were conducted and guess what? They noticed that particles did simply appear out of nothing.

You cant do that with God.

God and faith are not science, you can do nothing to prove either true or false or logical.

With science yoiu can - and this mathematical idea of matter appearing out of nothing is a scientifically proven fact.
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« Reply #145 on: May 12, 2005, 05:41:39 PM »
Grun, did the experiment prove that matter was created from nothing, or did it just say that particles "appear" out of nothing?

in other words, was it proven that matter can be created ?
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« Reply #146 on: May 12, 2005, 05:45:41 PM »
it pops into existance from nothing.
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« Reply #147 on: May 12, 2005, 05:48:53 PM »
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it pops into existance from nothing.



well, I know that's what you keep saying, but I am asking if the experiment is regarded as proof that matter can be created.
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« Reply #148 on: May 12, 2005, 06:05:59 PM »
Grun, do you have a link or a name for this experiment  you speak of?

I would be interested in reading up on it.
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« Reply #149 on: May 12, 2005, 06:08:53 PM »
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You see quantum theory mathemetically predicted that it would be possible to have particles appear out of nothing.



Don't you mean that it was predicted that engery can be converted to matter and vis versa?

Created from nothing?
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