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Why did God creat humans?
« Reply #60 on: May 11, 2005, 02:08:16 AM »
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Something ive thought about. Everything is created by something, for instance, Hurricanes are created by certain weather conditions etc. So how did God come to be? Something had to have created god imho if there is a god. There is a start for everthing mostly and a reason for it. Hard to explain but i think you see what im talking about.

Btw, i believe there is "something" greater up there.

another thing. Size is boundless. You can never have nothing. There is no limit to how big or small something can get.

Sorry, just thought bout this stuff the other day.:)


And it's all very interesting to think about.

Everything is created by something....but if you carry that logic back to infinity, there can be no logical answer for the creation of anything.

In the begining, there had to be something to create with. What created that original "something" ?

Science cannot explain how all the matter in the universe came to be.....it does not even come close.

Any scientific asnwer is just as "crazy" as any religious explanation.
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« Reply #61 on: May 11, 2005, 02:13:09 AM »
Quantum theory says something can come out of nothing.  Experiments have shown particles appearing out of nothing.

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« Reply #62 on: May 11, 2005, 02:16:00 AM »
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Quantum theory says something can come out of nothing.  Experiments have shown particles appearing out of nothing.



But do you believe that all the matter in the universe came from nothing? Before there was even a "nothing"

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« Reply #63 on: May 11, 2005, 02:21:48 AM »
There is no "before." Time started with the big bang.

But I love to ask the same question.

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« Reply #64 on: May 11, 2005, 02:25:49 AM »
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There is no "before." Time started with the big bang.

But I love to ask the same question.


But Grun, I do not agree.

What caused the big bang? Think about that.

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« Reply #65 on: May 11, 2005, 02:34:13 AM »
Well one theory is that another dimension impacted the dimension our universse now occupies and the resulting explosion and relese of energycreated the (our) universe and our time.  There is no saying ours is the only universe, even as big as it is.

That type of theory accounts for the fact that the early universe's expansion actually accelerated after the big bang which means there was some sort of exra enery feeding the initial expansion beyond the big bang explosion.

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« Reply #66 on: May 11, 2005, 02:41:19 AM »
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Well one theory is that another dimension impacted the dimension our universse now occupies and the resulting explosion and relese of energycreated the (our) universe and our time.  There is no saying ours is the only universe, even as big as it is.

That type of theory accounts for the fact that the early universe's expansion actually accelerated after the big bang which means there was some sort of exra enery feeding the initial expansion beyond the big bang explosion.


Grun, think about the big bang for a second. A lot of people say the big bang was the start of the expansion of the universe.

1. the big bang theory does not even attempt to explain where that matter came from. That detail is ignored.

2. What action caused the big bang? And what action caused the action which caused the big bang, and so on? That string of reactions, would have to go back to infinity logically.

So how can science explain the origins of the big bang?

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Re: Why did God creat humans?
« Reply #67 on: May 11, 2005, 02:45:39 AM »
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Why did God create man?
 


Your question is flawed.

Man created God.

Or we can use the antropic principle:

God exist because he had to create man, else our universe would not have existed.

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« Reply #68 on: May 11, 2005, 02:47:43 AM »
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Your question is flawed.

Man created God.

Or we can use the antropic principle:

God exist because he had to create man, else our universe would not have existed.


Naso, take this as philisophical question. (As in) If there was a God. why create man? Look at the question in that manner.

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« Reply #69 on: May 11, 2005, 02:53:15 AM »
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Naso, take this as philisophical question. (As in) If there was a God. why create man? Look at the question in that manner.


I will try in other terms:

God created man to justify his own existence.
Without man he cannot prove his own existence to himself.

Antropic principle.

Is used to answer similar questions:

Why the universe is as it is?
Because, with a different universe there cannot be a man to observe and study it.

Funny, uh?

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« Reply #70 on: May 11, 2005, 02:59:23 AM »
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Okay, you are right. Before I ask a question, I should ask you if it's proper or not :lol

And thanks for stating your belief that God did not create humans. So why are you Catholic?


You don't to ask me anything but I certainly will call you your BS as I see it. You wouldn't be able to understand the answers anyway.

I am not a Christian, Catholic or other wise as stated and re-stated several times in that other thread.

How can you 'debate' if you have no clue what it is you are 'debating'?

If you make the Claim that God exists it's up to you to prove it. It's not up to any anyone else to disprove you. Everything is  'unproven' until it gets 'proved'.

So stop your ducking ducking and weaving and 'prove it' as  Handtime asked...

After all it is your premise.

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« Reply #71 on: May 11, 2005, 03:06:22 AM »
To have fun looking my creation Nuke owned multiple times by my other creations in a BBS made by other creations of mine.

I am a silly God.

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Oh, you deleted the post.

Your question was like :

"But... but.... if you were God, why create the man"

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« Reply #72 on: May 11, 2005, 03:12:18 AM »
As I said NUKE I like asking that question myself.

There certainly is plenty of space for god and science in this world.

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« Reply #73 on: May 11, 2005, 03:20:22 AM »
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As I said NUKE I like asking that question myself.

There certainly is plenty of space for god and science in this world.


Yes. I think that science has no more of a logical explanation for the creation of the universe than religion does though.

It is as logical to say that God created the universe as it is to say that the universe just created itself.

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« Reply #74 on: May 11, 2005, 03:22:06 AM »
Not really.

Experiments definitevly prove that particles do simply appear out of nothing.

Can you prove anything about God?