Funked, u are right, i haven't noticed the lack of body roll. Gt4 didn't do it for me because of the lack drift capacity from the rear wheel drive cars:o
Forza gives me a good feeling close enought from what i feel when i goof around with my pontiac, or when I used to hill race with my little manta/corsa in France.
At any rate, those are only games, runing 8 min at Nurbering in a m3 GTR thinking you are as good as Muller would be as foolish as thinking you are better than Gallant because you just shot down 3 LA7s with a me109g2.