MPAA/RIAA trying more stuff

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Sandman
I think the cable networks might have a legitimate gripe, but the broadcast networks need to realize that we (the people) own the frequencies they're using.

So since they own the cable... all the programming belongs to the cable company? They can reproduce anything that goes over their cable without any concern for those who produced the programming?   I think that is not the case.

[Nashwan]

When was it a right to record broadcast TV programs?

"Fair use" has allowed copying parts of copyrighted works for centuries. Making personal use copies of copyrighted works has been ruled legal by the US courts numerous times, but more importantly the supreme court ruled in 1984 that recording TV programmes for personal use and replaying at a later date was legal (that was the case in 1984 when Universal studios tried to ban the home video recorder)

I'm suprised lazs hasn't complained about this. Imposing restrictions on equipment that let people follow legal activities, just because criminals also use them to break the law.

Computers/video recorders/tivos don't break copyright law, people do.

[Gunslinger]

for those of you who are all for these flags let me throw you a scenerio:

How about the MPAA get in the business of designing manufacturing and distributing consumer electronics......

THEN they can lobby the FCC to regulate them.  The fact is they want CONTROL and they no longer have it.  Their bottom line $$$$ isn't hurting ONE bit but they want to be involved in the standards that get put on consumer electronics and new technologies.

I tell you what...if the MPAA made a DVD player/VCR/TIVO/MP3 Player NO ONE WOULD BUY IT.  The other brands would be much cheaper and have a TON more features!

I'm not advocating anyone steal anything.  But for the MPAA to pressure congress to give the FCC regulatory control over consumer electronics is NUTS!

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
So since they own the cable... all the programming belongs to the cable company? They can reproduce anything that goes over their cable without any concern for those who produced the programming?   I think that is not the case.

The cable company has a deal with the content provider. The cable company also has a deal with their paying customers. This does not mean that the paying customers have a deal with the content providers. It's a privately owned network transmitted via privately owned hardware.

[Torque]

who cares, 99% of it is just garbage anyhow.

[Siaf__csf]

In this case they couldn't care less if you tape whatever for later viewing. The whole idea behind it is to force the viewers to see all the advertisements broadcasted.

They want to pump you up with as much commercial junk as humanly possible and the only way to ensure that is to combat technologies that enable the consumers to skip the advertisements.

Next they'll lobby in a law that will force every tv-set owner to spend at least an hour daily in front of commercials, verify watching it through interactive tv or lose the digital viewing license. Lol.

[NUKE]

Recording copywright material has never been a right in the US.

[lazs2]

nashwan... who says I am against people owning equipment?  They should be able to own any they want.  Using it ilegally is another thing.

If the content of a program is owned by someone and it can be proven that you have no right to make copies of it then I guess the owners are being wronged if you record it.   I don't think that they can make that law tho.   That would mean that books would have to disintegrate after all the pages had been turned for example.

If the companies put in some sort of flag that made it impossible to record then new recorders would be sold that got rid of the flag.   Without a law to back it up the technology is worthless.

As for "global economy"  perhaps but..  It is our laws.   If you don't vote here then you have only the power of voting with your pocketbook and... impotent screaching against any rumor about American life you hear.

lazs

[lada]

Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Will soon be land of the MPAA/RIAA.

 

hehe i got some emails from then in past. Im responsible for some public IP address`s so they sometime try to whine.


But what i realy do not understand is, why they are sending email to czech republic with this text. " According to US Law. No.XXXX "


Those idiots have no brain, so just plain FU is what they usualy get from me.

Once they tried to scare me, that they will contact local authorities.
Pitty that they dont use brain at all.


MPAA/RIAA is realy most pathetic group of companies, people i ever saw.

[lada]

Originally posted by GScholz
It has been a "right" in the US since forever. There is no law against it. In fact as someone said here, it has been tried in court and found legal.

Is it just me or some Norvegia nameless dude know US laws better that NUKE ?

 
[boooo GScholz drink one beer and forget it please ]

[Yeager]

oh...............my.......... ...cod

[lasersailor184]

Let me clue you in on a little something.

Once the cable feed enters your house, they have no say on what you do with it.

Whether it's plugging the coaxial into your ear or making thousands of copies of a certain show.  As long as it stays in your house they can't do anything.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Siaf__csf
This judgement is just one step on the way of limiting consumer rights on a global level.

They won't stop there. Soon you'll be forced to verify everything you do through MPAA/RIAA hosts. They'll ask for a permission to scan your computers for copyright materials and delete suspected at will. They'll want to make you pay for each time you listen or access a copyrighted title on your harddrive or through some controlled service.

Thier greed stops at nothing. Even though you've purchased a right to use music titles they'll want to charge you again over it somehow. Online music is already licensed for a limited period only - meaning you pay the standard price to listen to a song but will get your access denied after a period of time if you won't keep feeding RIAA more money.

They've found a superb way to force you, the consumers, into paying payment after payment by lobbying and greasing your congressmen into making laws which give MPAA/RIAA basically a carte blanche on licensing enforcement.

Soon you'll be arrested for whistling a song publicly unless you pay public performance license for it.

ROFLMAO
OK , that does it. I just went to Wally World and bought a case of tinfoil. I have most of the windows done as we speak.
  How I  can keep the intrusive waves from slipping under the door?

[Siaf__csf]

ROFLMAO
OK , that does it. I just went to Wally World and bought a case of tinfoil. I have most of the windows done as we speak.
How I can keep the intrusive waves from slipping under the door?

What can I say.. ignorance is bliss. Once proved again.

I could explain you how the industry has demanded hardware/software level changes to ALL consumer media devices allowing them full control of anything you view, but I'd be just wasting my time.

Jackals of the world are sheep in MPAA/RIAA/Disney etc. flock.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Siaf__csf
What can I say.. ignorance is bliss. Once proved again.

I could explain you how the industry has demanded hardware/software level changes to ALL consumer media devices allowing them full control of anything you view, but I'd be just wasting my time.

Jackals of the world are sheep in MPAA/RIAA/Disney etc. flock.

Like I said earlier or maybe you just didnt read. Anything like that comes out it will get cracked in a month or less. Many movies imploy similar technology to defeat "back-up" copying, regardless it doesnt matter someone always finds a way in.