Mexico furious at tough US law on migrants

[bigsky]

Mexico furious at tough US law on migrants
By John Authers in Mexico City and Edward Alden in Washington
Published: May 13 2005 19:27 | Last updated: May 13 2005 19:27

Mexico has reacted furiously to a bill signed into law by the US this week that would fund a border wall and prevent illegal Mexican migrants from obtaining US driving licences.

President Vicente Fox said he would lodge a diplomatic complaint, and was considering complaints to multilateral bodies if Mexico could not unable to resolve the problem bilaterally.

In the US, leaders of the Mexican community threatened to strike to send a message to US employers that they could not survive without cheap Mexican labour.

Santiago Creel, Mexico's interior secretary, said the “Real ID” law was “negative, inconvenient, and obstructionist”.

“Building walls doesn't help anyone build a good neighbourhood,” he said. “Taking away the possibility of obtaining driving licences for people who are working in legal jobs, who pay their taxes there, who send remittances home here, seems to us to be an extreme measure, particularly given the new understanding that we thought we had after the re-election of President Bush.”

Andrés Manuel López Obrador, mayor of Mexico City, supported Mr Fox's stance. He said the problem of growing immigration could be “resolved by encouraging development in Mexico and Central America, not by building walls and using the border control”.

Since 2002, Mexico has adopted a popular policy of issuing undocumented labourers with consular identity cards, which are accepted as proof of identity by many US states for issuing driving licences, and for opening bank accounts. Under the new law, this would no longer be possible. The immigration provisions approved by Congress were attached by House Republicans to a bill that will provide more than $80bn for the war in Iraq this year, giving lawmakers little choice but to support it.

The White House, which at first opposed the new restrictions, supported them when it became clear they would pass Congress in spite of administration opposition.

President George W. Bush has said he wants to deal with illegal immigration by creating a temporary guest worker programme. But many Republicans are using the anxiety about terrorism to push for a crackdown on illegal immigrants.

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[NUKE]

Vicente Fox couldn't care less about respecting our laws.

I guess he's probably a vocal supporter for illegal immigrants flooding into Mexico from the south. He probably welcomes them, gives them licenses, health care, schooling and etc.

Tough watermelon Fox.

[parker00]

Andrés Manuel López Obrador, mayor of Mexico City, supported Mr Fox's stance. He said the problem of growing immigration could be “resolved by encouraging development in Mexico and Central America, not by building walls and using the border control”.

Why is it that the USA has to encourage development instead of Mexico?

Building walls doesn't help anyone build a good neighbourhood

I always thought it was a "better fences build better neighbors" or something like that.

[Octavius]

What does Fox think "illegal" means?

[Wotan]

Imagine a 10 year joint program to build a canal along the Mexican - US board. Mostly US founding and Mexican labor.

It would solve the immigration problem short term, create a a much more manageable border and save shipping costs and reduce prices for some consumer products.

However, American farmers would suffer due to the shortage in field hands.

Fox is only upset because 'illegal immigration' is one of Mexico's top industries. The Mexican economy depends on migrant and other illegals sending their cash home.

Mexico also has oil reserves but doesn't have the industry nor funding to tap into it.

If the US doesn't ecourage and aid in the economic development of Mexico then illegal immigration will always be a problem.

Alot Mexico's problem, however, are internal. Until these are addressed by a strong leader Mexico will never climb out of the "Third World".

[BlueJ1]

Let them whine and strike. Companys that survive will take their low paying jobs to another country we farm jobs out to, then Mexico goes to the dumps more then it already has.

[Lizard3]

Originally posted by bigsky


 “Taking away the possibility of,... who send remittances home here.”

I believe this may be the issue.

A good chunk of the Mexican economy is probably fueled by this.




edit:Looks like Wotan hit it before I got there.

[schizer]

So it is ok for them to come to this country illegally, pay no taxes, and become a drain on our economy.  How about 4 families living in a single family zoned area?  How about turning a driveway into a parking lot/used car lot?  Pics of a house about 2 blocks away.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by schizer
So it is ok for them to come to this country illegally, pay no taxes, and become a drain on our economy.  How about 4 families living in a single family zoned area?  How about turning a driveway into a parking lot/used car lot?  Pics of a house about 2 blocks away.

An you know for a fact these people are illegal aliens?  Nice house and cars for illegals.


ack-ack

[LePaul]

Heh....of course Foxx is upset, all his problem children run thru our boder and bleed our resources.  With enforcement and a wall up, heck, they'll have to finally take care of their own!

[bigsky]

Originally posted by schizer
So it is ok for them to come to this country illegally, pay no taxes, and become a drain on our economy.  How about 4 families living in a single family zoned area?  How about turning a driveway into a parking lot/used car lot?  Pics of a house about 2 blocks away.

maybe they all work at walmart, and thats just how many paychecks it takes to live in your hood.

[lazs2]

we will continue to have the problem so long as we allow the employers to continue to hire illegals.

there should be a 3-5 day national waiting period on new hires for any job no matter how trivial and the records would be checked at a fedral level like the gun buying waiting period... consular ID's would not pass.

Anyone hiring an illegal without going through the process would get a mandatory 1 year jail sentance.

once the flood of illegals looking for work dried up we could concentrate on the few who would be coming over for criminal or terrorist purposes.

lazs

[midnight Target]

We actually brought in the Secret Service once.

25 employees (out of 800) were found to be carrying false ID's.

Companies are not equipped to spot these people. The most common fraud was simply using the ID of a family member who was a citizen. SSN's are legit, DL picture legit.

[slimm50]

Originally posted by bigsky
if Mexico could not unable to resolve the problem bilaterally.....

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my son wants to go into print journalism. I think I know where he can intern during the summers. As a PROOF READER!:rolleyes:

[GtoRA2]

Fox is a racist as well.

"There is no doubt that Mexicans, filled with dignity, willingness and ability to work are doing jobs that not even blacks want to do there in the United States," he said in a speech broadcast in part on local radio and reported on newspaper web sites.
Fox said recent, tougher measures against immigrants do not represent "the road we should be building between friends and partners."



I say we invade.

Make mexico states 51 through 54.  Then the people wont be used as cheap almost slave labour. We can just jail anyone who has ever been part of the mexican governent.