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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2005, 02:23:06 PM »
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Wow that's pretty ballsy, only ten years eh?  I'm sure we will are remember your post.


not as "ballsy" as many here whining about it after only two
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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2005, 02:49:38 PM »
Tell us what you think it will be like in 10 years, Eagler.
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Offline Tuomio

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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2005, 03:15:06 PM »
Important question is, how would've Iraq turned out without invasion in 10 years. I think the toppling of SH was a good move, just unfinished business from the GW1, but staying in there is waste of good money.

Let them kill eachothers as much as they like, as long as they dont distrupt much of our oilsupplies and dont acquire weapons that can bring devastation to the western nations (including Israel). If they wanna stay backwards, let them.
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« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2005, 03:26:20 PM »
I'm just curious what the anti-war, anti-US folks actually want?
It's not like you can go back in time, not matter how much you
whine about it.  Come up with a solution, then enlighten the rest
of us.

     Of course maybe all you want is for someone to fail, and the
righteous indignation is just a smoke screen.
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« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2005, 03:46:09 PM »
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What do you mean by "real president"?


saddam got 99.9% of the vote, he is the "real president" of iraq.

(the .1% that voted against saddam disapeared)
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« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2005, 03:51:17 PM »
the answer is obsidian, but no one dares.
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« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2005, 03:53:19 PM »
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saddam got 99.9% of the vote, he is the "real president" of iraq.

(the .1% that voted against saddam disapeared)


Ah, thanks.
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« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2005, 05:17:45 PM »
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LOL.  Ya, 12 years.  In 12 years the civil war will be over and everything settled down again.  :rolleyes:


Well it's pretty obvious their on to the real reason for the invasion of Iraq....We control Iraq, we control the oil. A little soft shoe and a two step... we take Kuwait, Much easier than Iraq did.
We now have Iraq's oil, and Kuwait's oil....The House Of Saud? I don't think so...A little jump across the border and we have total control of the oil in the middle east. If it where me I would strike quickly, a suprise attack . A simultainious attack on Karg Island. You could see the fire from Paris. While Israel takes out the Iranians Nuke sites.
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« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2005, 11:19:38 PM »
Why all the discussion about democracy and 12 years ???  This was NEVER about some egalitarian crusade to rid the oppressed Iraqi people of a cruel dictator. This is about sercuring oil reserves under western freindly government.

The White House and for that matter the UK government couldn't care who or what controls the people of Iraq as long as it is stable enough to trade and pro-west.  So seeing civil war looming we in the west need to make sure our main supplier stays on side.  Now the pro-west King Fahd is basically dead but not quite and the Crown Prince who will take over is not exactly pro-west - he is ultra Islamic and the Wahhabis he aligns  with run mosques in Saudi that trun out more militants than Heinz turn out baked beans.

So we now have the prospect of civil war in Iraq (fueled by Saudi and Syrian insurgents taught the Koran in Saudi mosques) which limits production and development, and Saudi been controlled by a conservative Islamic (who built the mosques the insurgents are being taught in) who could jack the prices or just poke the finger to the west and sell to the now booming China. This is not good .....  Time to get GWB involved and try to get the Crown Prince back on side.  I think it would have been an "interesting" conversation.

Forget democracy and WMD and cruel dictators - read the book, watch the news, note the names,  and wake up to reality that the outlook of $100 a barrel oil price can be a powerful driver in foreign affairs.
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« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2005, 11:30:42 PM »
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Why all the discussion about democracy and 12 years ???  This was NEVER about some egalitarian crusade to rid the oppressed Iraqi people of a cruel dictator. This is about sercuring oil reserves under western freindly government.

 


That's a very simplistic, tired view you have there, in my opinion.
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« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2005, 11:31:59 PM »
There are a few people here with the ability to fully digest this combined with a willingness to give you an honest and intelligible accounting of it from their perspective.

But...  they won't touch it. Can't blame them. [edit] shreckit yes I can.
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Offline Steve

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« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2005, 11:33:39 PM »
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This is about sercuring oil reserves under western freindly government.


Awesome.  I bet you used your crystal ball to spy in on the oval office so you have hard facts that this was our prime motivation.  Or did you use your  ESP?


Blahaha!
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« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2005, 11:34:14 PM »
I don't know which part you are refering too Nash, but to say the war in Iraq was about oil is a point I'd debate.
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« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2005, 11:51:07 PM »
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I don't know which part you are refering too Nash, but to say the war in Iraq was about oil is a point I'd debate.


Great open a new thread. :D


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« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2005, 11:53:48 PM »
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btw Gixer, thanks for the link to the article on Democracy in Iraq.   It was pretty interesting.



No worries, nice to see someone on this board for once able to enjoy a balanced article.


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