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Offline 99taylor

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« on: May 19, 2005, 05:12:37 PM »
after spending the last week clearing my computer of spyware and virus stuff I have been advised to install xp service pack 2; is it safe or will it screw up my ah2 gameplay?

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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2005, 05:20:16 PM »
It is perfectly safe to install and will have no effect on your gameplay.
One piece of advice make sure your graphics drivers are up to date, the only time i had a problem was one machine having an old graphics driver.
On reboot the graphics were screwed, but its a known issue.

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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2005, 12:33:44 PM »
Make sure you turn the firewall off too.

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2005, 01:58:04 PM »
Umm only turn off the winXP firewall if you are protected by another, otherwise you will soon be back to infection central.

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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2005, 02:20:19 PM »
Since the poster was asking if it was safe or not to install, I'm assuming he doesnt have any such issues.  Nothing was said about having infection problems, and if he requires a software firewall, there are far better ones to use while gaming than the Windows setup that comes with SP2.  If his question had been "I dont have a firewall, and havent updated to SP 2 yet.  Is it safe to install?" then I would have included a very similar statement to yours, probably a qualifier like this.  

For anyone who DOES NOT have a Firewall currently, or who has problems that they think might be solved by installing one, AND if you are upgrading to SP2, then by all means leave the firewall turned on.  Dont expect good gameplay from AH if you do so, but you will feel better knowing you are protected by Microsoft's best I'm sure.

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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2005, 06:08:44 PM »
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Since the poster was asking if it was safe or not to install, I'm assuming he doesnt have any such issues. Nothing was said about having infection problems


I guess you missed this bit then.

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after spending the last week clearing my computer of spyware and virus stuff

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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2005, 11:01:44 AM »
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Umm only turn off the winXP firewall if you are protected by another, otherwise you will soon be back to infection central.


I don't quite get where people thinks stuff just flies into there computer and corupts it??  I don't & won't use a firewall, simply it is not needed. ALL spyware, worms etc... comes from stuff YOU DO! Opening emails, going to shady web sites, installing tool bars & silly bells & whistles off web sites. And firewalls do nothing to stop this kind of thing. I have a 4 meg cable conect that is all ways on 24 hours a day and have NEVER had a sigle thing jump into my computer & screw it up.  I have however done some stupid things with email attatchments & web sites... if you tell it to or let it install crap you are not sure what it is you will have problems...reguardless of firewalls & virus programs.

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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2005, 11:37:02 AM »
Is that true? I had always asumed that if you were online even if you wern't doing anything, people were scanning for your system and would find it and infect it without you doing anything?

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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2005, 11:54:04 AM »
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Is that true? I had always asumed that if you were online even if you wern't doing anything, people were scanning for your system and would find it and infect it without you doing anything?


Crispy, its called vulnerabilites (Undiscovered), the longer a system sits unprotected the more vulnerable it becomes. The only safe computer is one that is locked in a 10 foot thick concrete bunker not connected to anything a half mile in the earth. Thinking that "I don't go to porn sites", isn't going to stop someone running dictionary attacks on various services you have running on your system.

Eventually they get in, wake up.

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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2005, 02:27:25 PM »
Mr average Joe's unprotected computer running windows connected to the internet has been proven to be infected within 20 minutes.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/19/infected_in20_minutes/

Good luck with your head in the sand, i hope you have a large stock of vaseline :D
« Last Edit: May 28, 2005, 02:30:08 PM by 214thCavalier »

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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2005, 11:03:20 PM »
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Is that true? I had always asumed that if you were online even if you wern't doing anything, people were scanning for your system and would find it and infect it without you doing anything?


This is true. If you are "always on" ie cable connection you can be scanned.

But keep in mind most crackers are looking for computers with important docs ie buissness, govt agencies etc.
They really arent looking for u or me.

Most attacks the normal user will see are ghost pings from websites that you have connected too (they check to see if your still connected)

programs thay self update will access the internet looking for updates etc.

Good firewall    Zone alarm.
You can get it for free and it always gets updated.
You can set program prefrences to allow them to connect or make them get your permisssion.

AV programs  I use Norton AV. keep it updated and scan often.

Use programs like adaware, Sbybot Search and Destroy and run often.

I also use Aluria when I'm browsing the net
http://www.aluriasoftware.com/homeproducts/

Also something I find usefull to do is create restore points in your XP system restore program.

If you run into trouble you can go back to a good system point.

Now as far as the SP2 question..... I had installed it but I dont like the way it trys to make you do certian things. (I uninstalled it)

If you just surf smart, take precautions you should be ok

Anyway its safe but up to you.

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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2005, 11:14:16 PM »
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I don't quite get where people thinks stuff just flies into there computer and corupts it??  I don't & won't use a firewall, simply it is not needed. ALL spyware, worms etc... comes from stuff YOU DO! Opening emails, going to shady web sites, installing tool bars & silly bells & whistles off web sites. And firewalls do nothing to stop this kind of thing. I have a 4 meg cable conect that is all ways on 24 hours a day and have NEVER had a sigle thing jump into my computer & screw it up.  I have however done some stupid things with email attatchments & web sites... if you tell it to or let it install crap you are not sure what it is you will have problems...reguardless of firewalls & virus programs.


Just a note here....
You would be suprised
If you have Windows media player, real player, any kind of intellimouse (just to name a few) these programs are constantly connecting to the net looking for updates, etc.
And unless you use a firewall like zonealarm you'll never know

If you use outlook express do not use the preview pane.
Using the preview pane is the same as opening an email.
Alot of people think looking at the mail in the preview pane is not really opening it. Untrue

You should have to double click the email message to open them
(this is one of the simplest things you can do to prevent email attachement mishaps)

Just FYI
« Last Edit: May 28, 2005, 11:16:55 PM by Elyeh »

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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2005, 10:22:43 AM »
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Originally posted by 214thCavalier
Mr average Joe's unprotected computer running windows connected to the internet has been proven to be infected within 20 minutes.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/19/infected_in20_minutes/

Good luck with your head in the sand, i hope you have a large stock of vaseline :D


LOL well i must be extremely lucky, I have been connected 2 years solid and have never been hacked or bothered. But I don't let anything automatically update or leave any programs running.  In the event I do get hacked into I have everything backed up on another hard drive and would be up and running in mins.  It just isn't worth dinking with...there a pain.

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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2005, 11:42:13 AM »
I have service pack 2 and have one quick question. How do I turn off the Firewall?

I am already running a firewall with my Anti Virus software and suspect that the Microsft one is still running as well. (is that even possible to have 2 firewalls up and running?). At any rate I want to shut off the MS firewall associated with SP2.

Cheers, and thanks in advance.

(side note: I have encountered no real problems with SP2)

RTR
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2005, 11:44:40 AM »
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I have service pack 2 and have one quick question. How do I turn off the Firewall?

I am already running a firewall with my Anti Virus software and suspect that the Microsft one is still running as well. (is that even possible to have 2 firewalls up and running?). At any rate I want to shut off the MS firewall associated with SP2.

Cheers, and thanks in advance.

(side note: I have encountered no real problems with SP2)

RTR


Its possible to have many firewalls running. The way you turn off the firewall:
Start > Control Panel > Windows Firewall

Select "OFF" Not recommended