Grand Slam

[Pooface]

now i know that this has come up LOTS, but it would make the lancs so much more popular

in case you dont know, the grand slam bomb was a big bomb used by 617 sqn RAF from 1945 on. little info   l
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"Grand Slam"
Type: Deep Penetration Bomb
Length: 7,7 meter (26 feet 6 inches)
Diameter: 1,17 meter (3 feet, 10 inches)
Tail Section length: 4,11 meter (13 feet, 6 inches)
Weight: 9.979 kg (22.000 lb)
Warhead: 4.144 kg (9.135 lb) Torpex explosive *
Number used: 41
The "Grand Slam" (Earthquake) bomb was of the same design as the Tallboy but larger and heavier weighing 9.979 kg (22.000 lb). The Grand Slam was first used on 14 March, 1945 when a force of Lancaster bombers led by Royal Air Force Squadron Leader C.C. Calder attacked the Bielefeld railway viaduct destroying two spans. In another attack against submarine pens, (Bunker Valentin) near Bremen, two Grand Slams pentrated 4,5 meters of reinforced concrete. 41 Grand Slam Bombs were dropped by the end of the war mainly against bridges and viaducts.
The "Grand Slam" bomb was the biggest bomb used in WWII at all.
 
* "Torpex" means Torpedo Explosive. It was originally used for torpedoes and therefore got this name.





the grandslam was a later version of the tallboy bomb.



(grandslam on right, tallboy on left)


reports from the first ever drop of the bomb, on a u-boat pen, the bomb went through 27ft of solid concrete, before completely destroying the target. the germans originally thought that it was rocket propelled, as it travelled over 650 mph

now, i do realise that something like this in AH would be DEVASTATING, so i suggest that when equipped, a formation is disabled, with just one bomber. now a bomb like this would make an hq drop easier, but a single lanc is easier to take out, so the hq would be, in a way safer. if anyone thinks this is a bad idea, please say, coz i dont see a downside to it.

now, some may say that it will take a long time to model and whatever, but i will do whatever i can to help out if htc do decide on it. i live just 15mins down the road from a real one at raf hendon, and can get plenty of good pics and information

[Furball]

Originally posted by Pooface
i live just 15mins down the road from a real one at raf hendon, and can get plenty of good pics and information

damn, you are lucky - that place rocks!

if i lived that close i would go there every day!

[Karnak]

Think a Lancaster carrying 14,000lbs is a pig?  Try one carrying 22,000lbs.  Then try getting through the Me163 gauntlet.


Neat bomb.  I'm not sure how useful it'd be in AH.

[Nuke33]

Originally posted by Karnak
Think a Lancaster carrying 14,000lbs is a pig?  Try one carrying 22,000lbs.  Then try getting through the Me163 gauntlet.


Neat bomb.  I'm not sure how useful it'd be in AH.

Can you say, 'would take out most of the town'? I think it would be very useful

[TrueKill]

to take out the whole town in an instant

[Krusty]

Thus is has no place in AH.

[Kweassa]

Could be useful.

 But I'd hate to see it exploited, like the buff formations do. Imagine this scenario; you are fighting a hard-pressed defense. 2~3 enemy deck buff formations slip in. The suicidal tards they are, they spray the entire field with 6~9 x Grandslams.. blow everything up including themselves, in the process.

 ..

 Yuck.

[Nuke33]

Originally posted by Krusty
Thus is has no place in AH.

Perk it.. Problem solved

[bustr]

What would be it's near miss effect on CV's? Or on an airfeild with planes taking off and landing or GV's parked about?

[humble]

hehe...

Nice spawn "decamper" if nothing else

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Nuke33
Can you say, 'would take out most of the town'? I think it would be very useful

It wouldn't do any more than the 4000lb 'cookie'.  The Grand Slam is a penetration bomb designed to take out hardened targets, not a GP bomb that will detnonate on the surface and cause a large blast radius.

[Furball]

Originally posted by Karnak
It wouldn't do any more than the 4000lb 'cookie'.  The Grand Slam is a penetration bomb designed to take out hardened targets, not a GP bomb that will detnonate on the surface and cause a large blast radius.

well said.

the 12,000lb High Capacity 'cookie' (i guesstimate a charge to weight ratio of about 75% over the 30-40% on the grand slam) would be a far more effective bomb in Aces High, essentially 3 x 4,000lb bomb sections bolted together.

that was the bomb that was designed to blast open a wide area.  the grand slam, as karnak points out, was a deep penetration or 'earthquake' bomb.

[Kev367th]

Should we get it - Yup
Will we - Prob not

If we did - Would prob be perked. Thus setting another 'unique' feature of the RAF planeset.

Feature 1 - Only planeset with NO free types post 1942 (initial flight)
New feature - Only planeset with a perked loadout. As in a standard plane with diff armament. (Just to exclude the obvious F4UC arguments).
Same argument went for the Spit 5 with 4x20mms - perk it, yup sure perk a early war plane and leave the late stuff alone.

Aint gonna happen anyway, HT already shown his disdain for anything RAF with the current abortive planeset.

Karnak - Wasn't only for hardened targets. 617 dropped on a bridge missing it, the resulting 'earthquake' shook it down. Unsure which one they used to tear off the Tirpitz keel.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Kev367th
Unsure which one they used to tear off the Tirpitz keel.

12,000lb Tallboys.  At least two of which were direct hits.

[Kev367th]

Karnak - Tks. You know that Navy claims they sunk her because after the 617 raid the Tirpitz decks were still above water. It wasn't until the midget sub attack she 'sunk'.
And we think AH politics are bad,