Author Topic: "They Burned Tillman's Uniform," (Read 2234 times)

Red Tail 444 · « **on:** May 23, 2005, 09:17:32 AM »

WTFG US Army.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/washpost/20050523/ts_washpost/tillman_s_parents_are_critical_of_army

Now that the word's out about Tillman's death there won't be ANY trouble getting kids too poor to get into college enlisted.

Anyone willing to step in and try to refute the fact that the US Army straight up lied to the family, and the rest of us, about Tillman's "heroic" death? If this doesn't completely piss you off, there's something seriously wrong with you.

BTW, what happened to all the Tillman Avatars? Did the novelty finally wear off on you guys? Where's the love, man?

Suave · « **Reply #1 on:** May 23, 2005, 09:28:54 AM »

You mean he wasn't killed by friendly fire after all ? It was a lie ?

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 23, 2005, 09:29:57 AM »

A big black eye for all involved. The fact that the Army tried to sell the "he died barking orders as he charged a hill" story makes me sick.

oboe · « **Reply #3 on:** May 23, 2005, 09:57:11 AM »

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive."

It's just a shame all the way around. He was a real American hero and role model - the Army did him, his family, itself, and all of the rest of us, really, a great disservice by fabricating the story surrounding his death in combat.

I wonder if they will discipline those officers involved in the coverup.

I'm still thinking 'draft' in the back of my mind, no matter what they say publicly.

rpm · « **Reply #4 on:** May 23, 2005, 10:02:22 AM »

Remember the Jessica Lynch fiasco? Brass and politicians tried to propagandize her story. Fortunately, she would have none of it and came forward to say so publicly.

Tillman was not a role model for the way he died, he was for what he did before his death.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 23, 2005, 10:10:45 AM »

Interesting and sad.

Whats with the dad talking about a homicide though? Does he think his son was murdered and not an acident?

NUKE · « **Reply #6 on:** May 23, 2005, 11:53:07 AM »

Pat Tillman was a hero and true patriot.

God bless all those who are serving and who have served our country. Pat Tillman joined the army out of a sense of duty for our country and there are many, many others who have joined the armed forces for the same reasons.

I find it ironic that Red Tail wants to use his death for some small minded point of his.

Furball · « **Reply #7 on:** May 23, 2005, 11:58:53 AM »

dont get me wrong, i like america and i like americans.

but this is yet another reason why the "holier than thou" attitude pisses me off.

soda72 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 23, 2005, 12:12:51 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
Pat Tillman was a hero and true patriot.

I will always remember him.

Pat Tillman being killed by friendly fire is old news, I guess the washington post is a little slow...

Yeager · « **Reply #9 on:** May 23, 2005, 12:51:28 PM »

His sacrifice is appreciated by me. I never knew the guy personaly, didnt even know he existed until he died (I could care less about phoosball).

Im not surprised the government lied. they should not have lied about his sacrifice obviously something is broken in rumsfields pentagon but I dont expect anything to change. Serving the country is the highest honor even if blue on blue kills you, **** happens.

Gixer · « **Reply #10 on:** May 23, 2005, 12:52:58 PM »

How is it a "Heroic" death when he was killed by his own squad? Didn't the other guy empty every round of .50cal from a Humvee into the hillside he was on.

~~...-Gixer~~

Steve · « **Reply #11 on:** May 23, 2005, 01:05:28 PM »

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How is it a "Heroic" death when he was killed by his own squad?

Dude, who said it was heroic? Or are you so poorly versed in English that you don't recognize what the " " are for?

The way the army handled the whole thing is infuriating. It's an embarrassment, really.

SunTracker · « **Reply #12 on:** May 23, 2005, 02:16:05 PM »

Why did he stand up when someone was shooting at him? That was a new guy mistake. The story went like this if I remember right:

Tillman and another guy were behind a large rock. Some rangers shot at them. Tillman yelled something, then stood up. He was promptly shot.

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 23, 2005, 02:32:21 PM »

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The story went like this if I remember right:[/B]

Not really.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35717-2004Dec4.html

SunTracker · « **Reply #14 on:** May 23, 2005, 02:45:49 PM »

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Smoke drifted from a signal grenade Tillman had detonated minutes before in a desperate bid to show his platoon members they were shooting the wrong men. The firing had stopped. Tillman had stood up, chattering in relief. Then the machine gun bursts erupted again.

"I could hear the pain in his voice," recalled the young Ranger days later to Army investigators. Tillman kept calling out that he was a friendly, and he shouted, "I am Pat [expletive] Tillman, damn it!" His comrade recalled: "He said this over and over again until he stopped."