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Offline rpm

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« on: May 29, 2005, 03:24:31 AM »
After 35 years, TV thief released
Raleigh News & Observer

RALEIGH, N.C. - Junior Allen, who spent 35 years in North Carolina prisons for stealing a $140 television, walked out of prison Friday a free man.

Allen, 65, will live with relatives in Georgia.

He was paroled on his 26th try after getting a life sentence in 1970 for second-degree burglary. Georgia authorities will supervise Allen's parole, which could last up to five years.

If Allen follows all laws, keeps a job and reports periodically to his parole officer there, he'll gain complete freedom by age 70.

Under an old law, the late Judge Pou Bailey sentenced Allen to life in prison for sneaking into an unlocked house and stealing a 19-inch black-and-white Motorola TV. Allen, a migrant farm worker, was 30.

The harshest punishment the offense could draw now is about three years in prison
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2005, 04:20:21 AM »
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He would not have spent more than maybe 30 days here for a second second offence of this caliber I think, as long as nobody was hurt and the house was unlocked.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2005, 06:48:03 AM »
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He would not have spent more than maybe 30 days here for a second second offence of this caliber I think, as long as nobody was hurt and the house was unlocked.


That's screwed up. Thieves suck. If they aren't caught in the act and shot dead, they deserve hard time and lots of it.

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2005, 06:59:59 AM »
I always wondered when that kid that befriended Derrik Vinyard in prison got out of jail.

Context-In some Middle Eastern countries he would have lost either a hand or both hands as a sentence for theft.  Which would you take?
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2005, 08:47:40 AM »
35 years ago I think 140 bucks would be grand theft and... there is the little matter of "sneaking into" someones house....

I believe that is called burglary in some places.

Anyone who has been burgled probly thinks 35 years in prison is about right.

course.. the guy was probly just trying to help his family who were starving for "I love Lucy".

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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2005, 08:54:33 AM »
Then there's what some call "the REST of the story" (posted by a buddy somewhere else):

With a history of violent assaults and burglary, he was convicted of
burglarizing an occupied house.  A house occupied by an 87 year old woman.
That he roughed up.
Although he was not "convicted" of assault, the article doesn't say if he
was "convicted" of anything or if he plead guilty and the assault was
dropped as part of a plea bargain.
Considering the assault took place during the commission of a felony
burglary and the victim was 87 years old, the assault could very likely have
been a higher ranking charge than the burglary.  It is likely he plead
guilty to the burglary in hopes that the sentencing judge would be lenient,
but the judge gave him the max on review of the case.
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2005, 08:56:16 AM »
With the question being "If it was YOUR 87 year old grandma he victimized, would you still think 30 days was an appropriate sentence?"

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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2005, 08:57:27 AM »
what???  burglary and assault and a history of crime???

No way man... he was just "sneaking into a house"  probly a fraternaty pledge prank!

So he had a tiny little history of other minor assaults and violent crime..

Ask his victim... er.. people he played pranks on..  I bet they all feel real bad that he went to jail.

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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2005, 11:03:52 AM »
Lol, that went as planned... poor liberal news post.
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2005, 11:18:40 AM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
35 years ago I think 140 bucks would be grand theft and... there is the little matter of "sneaking into" someones house....

I believe that is called burglary in some places.

Anyone who has been burgled probly thinks 35 years in prison is about right.

course.. the guy was probly just trying to help his family who were starving for "I love Lucy".

lazs


wow ..i agree with lazs2:eek:

I have been robbed 2 times and the problem with home invaders is that they usually bring a weapon, just in case they are interrupted.. which usuaally results in one of those 'murder, house set ablaze situations.'  Lock em up and throw away the key.  The liberals and conservatives can wrestle over who foots the bill.
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2005, 12:19:32 PM »
35 years for it is a little unfair. I am glad to see him out, and if it was up to me he would of been out alot sooner. Where humans we all do stupid things. Im sure everybody on this board has stolen something from somebody. Just image if you got 35 years for that.
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2005, 01:08:44 PM »
He unlawfully entered someone's home, how many times does this happen and he is discovered in the house and something goes wrong, like the owner ending up dead? They should give the same sentence to identity thieves.
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2005, 01:38:43 PM »
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Originally posted by jetb123
35 years for it is a little unfair. I am glad to see him out, and if it was up to me he would of been out alot sooner. Where humans we all do stupid things. Im sure everybody on this board has stolen something from somebody. Just image if you got 35 years for that.


So you think its OK that he committed a crime during which he roughed up an 87 year old woman and he is still allowed to breathe air? (much less get out of jail before his sentence is up) Keep in mind he had a record of violent crime before this, and while he was in prison was written up over 50 times, many of those times involving violence.

You need to think about context. This isn't about simply stealing a $140 TV. Judges are allowed sentencing discretion within minimum and maximum. There IS such a thing in this world as "bad people", and that's why we have maximum sentences and hard time.

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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2005, 02:41:49 PM »
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Originally posted by jetb123
35 years for it is a little unfair. I am glad to see him out, and if it was up to me he would of been out alot sooner. Where humans we all do stupid things. Im sure everybody on this board has stolen something from somebody. Just image if you got 35 years for that.


A bit presumptious of you, don't you think?

Just because you stole something (the term "everybody" obviously includes you as well), does not mean that the rest of us think that theft is just " stupid thing to do".

An assault on a 87 year old warrants more than 35 years. Besides, looks like he got an award for the "lifetime of accomplishments", not just for this crime.
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2005, 02:43:08 PM »
did you guys miss the part about him having a history of violent assaults and burglary?

"sneaking" into someones home.... like it was a prank or something?   perhaps the 67 year old woman he beat up should get 35 years for being such a spoil sport?

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