Author Topic: Cheney you are full of **** (Read 1868 times)

Raider179 · « **on:** May 30, 2005, 11:28:34 PM »

I really despise Cheney and will make no excuse for myself regarding saying it. This statement by him sums it up for me.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/30/cheney.amnestyintl/index.html

"But if you trace those back, in nearly every case, it turns out to come from somebody who has been inside and been released ... to their home country and now are peddling lies about how they were treated.

This is his excuse for why there are allegations of abuse at GB.

Wow Cheney really? How many inside Gitmo have had the chance to talk to someone on the outside? I don't think I would have near the problem I do with the current administration if it would drop rumsfield/cheney.

Sandman · « **Reply #1 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:30:23 PM »

Admit nothing.
Deny everything.
Make counter accusations.

Go Dick!

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #2 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:32:27 PM »

You don't have much evidence that he's not telling the truth... do you?

rpm · « **Reply #3 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:33:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Admit nothing.
Deny everything.
Make counter accusations.

Go Dick!

Is'nt that Karl Rove's montra?

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #4 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:36:50 PM »

Was it Karl Rove who used those tactics in response to a stained dress? Can't remember...

If we were to list politicians that used this tactic, this will be a long thread.

rpm · « **Reply #5 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:38:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Was it Karl Rove who used those tactics in response to a stained dress? Can't remember...

Yeah, what a threat to national security that was.

Raider179 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:40:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
You don't have much evidence that he's not telling the truth... do you?

Please Holden. His defense is we released them so they are liars. It's GITMO, I think I have a pretty good idea what goes on down there, dont you? The whole world knows what goes on there it just is kept quiet. Or at least as quiet as they can.

Nash · « **Reply #7 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:40:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
You don't have much evidence that he's not telling the truth... do you?

Like that's hard to find? Come on.

I tell ya what. I spend an hour digging up and posting the BS on Cheney, and you wolf down a dozen hotdogs and wash it back with mayonaise. Neither one of us are going to enjoy it, but it aint like it's impossible.

(tiresome when someone, pretending like they have amnesia, says "prove it".... when I reckon we should be well past the point of having to prove it and instead start letting reality sink in and discuss what it actually portends.)

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #8 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:41:28 PM »

RPM, I thought we were talking about rhetorical tactics. Like the 'change the subject' one you just used.

Raider179 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:41:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Admit nothing.
Deny everything.
Make counter accusations.

Go Dick!

Thats a standard defense these days, unfortunately.

1K3 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:43:05 PM »

wait... (off topic)

Is this the guy (Cheyney) who refused to acknowledge M.L.K.? Not just that, he even voted NAY for declaring M.L.K. day a holiday!

rpm · « **Reply #11 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:47:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
RPM, I thought we were talking about rhetorical tactics. Like the 'change the subject' one you just used.

Change the subject? I was replying to Sandman's post, then yours. WTH are you smoking?

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #12 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:48:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Raider179
Please Holden. His defense is we released them so they are liars. It's GITMO, I think I have a pretty good idea what goes on down there, dont you? The whole world knows what goes on there it just is kept quiet. Or at least as quiet as they can.

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Originally posted by Nash Like that's hard to find? Come on. [/B]

I don't deny that there may be problems at Gitmo, it is just I have seen a lot of accusations, no difinitive proof. AI based their findings on second hand info.

Mostly those at Gitmo were captured on the battlefields of Afganistan and could be said to have a grudge against the great Satan even before their incarceration.

I have not been privvy to the evidence that you all seem to be. Appartently your security clearance is higher than mine.

Sometimes smoke is just a smokescreen, and it can be blown by Cheney, the Taliban, or both.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #13 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:55:48 PM »

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originally posted by RPM

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Was it Karl Rove who used those tactics in response to a stained dress? Can't remember...
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Yeah, what a threat to national security that was.

Please show me the part that was in response to Sandman.

Raider179 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 30, 2005, 11:58:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I don't deny that there may be problems at Gitmo, it is just I have seen a lot of accusations, no difinitive proof. AI based their findings on second hand info.

Those at Gitmo were captured on the battlefields of Afganistan and could be said to have a grudge against the great Satan even before their incarceration.

I have not been privvy to the evidence that you all seem to be. Appartently your security clearance is higher than mine.

Somethimes smoke is just a smokescreen, and it can be blown by Cheney, the Taliban, or both.

So you dont deny there are problems at GITMO. Thats all I need to hear. You don't disagree, you just havent seen video/pictures.