Author Topic: i love this country (Read 1510 times)

Furball · « **Reply #60 on:** June 04, 2005, 11:38:00 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
do we have to ruin our teeth and mate with our siblings (be they male or female) as well?

we can continue to allow that in texas, yes.

Steve · « **Reply #61 on:** June 04, 2005, 12:12:35 PM »

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well, if what you are saying is...its okay for a corporation to do so and have protections and its not okay for people too

88, people can still file BK. You simply have to explain this to me: Why do you think people should be able to accumulate thousands of dollars in debt and not pay? This isn't bait, honest. I just wnat you to tell mw why you don't think people should have to pay for stuff/services they purchase.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #62 on:** June 04, 2005, 12:25:25 PM »

Yep JB it's all over, bedtime for democracy. Kill yourself or move to France.

Hangtime · « **Reply #63 on:** June 04, 2005, 12:29:47 PM »

Sometimes the system is abused.

Take this guy for example.. works 22 years on a job. No health plan (company pulled it, too expensive), no 401k, no retirement plan. Guy has minamal life insurance.

He's got a wife, kids, house, 35k a year job. wife works too. 28k a year. over the course of 22 years, he's got a mortgage; a second, about 15k in cc debt.

He gets laid off. then he gets sick.. stress.. he wife leaves him, no money. She rapes him for the house, alimony, child support.

Now he's up to his bellybutton in debt.. no income, no health plan, a massive health care bill, alimony, child support bills.

The guy files bankruptcy.

I hate dickwads like this.. abusing the system. The rat bastard should arrange an accident to kill himself so his insurance pays off his debt.

oboe · « **Reply #64 on:** June 04, 2005, 12:36:11 PM »

How many times has Donald Trump filed for bankruptcy? Isn't like 4 or 5 times?

Steve · « **Reply #65 on:** June 04, 2005, 12:38:41 PM »

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How many times has Donald Trump filed for bankruptcy? Isn't like 4 or 5 times?

Yes, and he takes advantage of the system. He actually plans for BK, it's part of his strategy. To me, this is nothing more than theft/fraud.

Steve · « **Reply #66 on:** June 04, 2005, 12:41:32 PM »

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hate dickwads like this.. abusing the system. pays off .

Why should he not have to pay his CC debt? Why is he not responsible? Maybe he lived beyond his means on his CC's. Why is he not responsible?

Additionally, the new laws do not prevent guys like this from filing BK so before you post more silly gibberish you might want to consider who the new laws are affecting.

Hangtime · « **Reply #67 on:** June 04, 2005, 12:52:27 PM »

Steve, hope you have a happy life, never get over-extended, never get sick, never get laid off.

Really. Wouldn't wish Hobson's choice on anybody.

Regarding 'silly gibberish'.. so sorry, didn't mean to cloud the waters with meaningless diatribe.

john9001 · « **Reply #68 on:** June 04, 2005, 01:05:33 PM »

only big differance in bankruptcy law is if you have asssets/income to repay part of debt in 6 years you have to file chapter 13 instead of chapter 7 (total debt forgivness).

depending on your assests/income people filing 13 repay about 20% of debt.

the bankruptcy judge will decide if you have to file 13 or 7, before it was your lawyer who decided that.

storch · « **Reply #69 on:** June 04, 2005, 01:24:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Steve, hope you have a happy life, never get over-extended, never get sick, never get laid off.

Really. Wouldn't wish Hobson's choice on anybody.

Regarding 'silly gibberish'.. so sorry, didn't mean to cloud the waters with meaningless diatribe.

maybe if you treated your customers properly you would have the income to meet your obligations?

Steve · « **Reply #70 on:** June 04, 2005, 01:52:03 PM »

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never get over-extended, never get sick, never get laid off.

Hang, over extended? Irresponsible.

Sick? Laid off? Why would either of these excuse me from my finanacial responsibilities?

Oh gosh, I got sick and was in the hospital. Sorry Mr. creditor, even though it's not your fault I got sick, I'm not going to pay my 5k credit card debt which I used to buy the plasma screen TV in my living room. Oh, by the way, I get to keep the TV.

Why? Why shouldn't people be responsible?

oboe · « **Reply #71 on:** June 04, 2005, 05:20:06 PM »

Gawd, I agree with Steve on something! Now that's a pleasant surprise-- have a drink on me.

Why do you supposed bankers keep lending The Donald money?
Its money that comes out of OUR pockets, too, when he inevitably goes belly up, doesn't it?

From what I know of the bankruptcy reform, it seems reasonable. But I don't doubt there are loopholes that the wealthy will be able to exploit. Let's just watch.

Toad · « **Reply #72 on:** June 04, 2005, 05:35:24 PM »

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Whatever, I also don't understand people that make a big deal out of announcing they are ignoring someone, but I DO find it amusing.

Watch it buddy. You're dangerously close to joining my notoriously short ignore list.

JB88 · « **Reply #73 on:** June 04, 2005, 08:44:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Steve
Hang, over extended? Irresponsible.

Sick? Laid off? Why would either of these excuse me from my finanacial responsibilities?

Oh gosh, I got sick and was in the hospital. Sorry Mr. creditor, even though it's not your fault I got sick, I'm not going to pay my 5k credit card debt which I used to buy the plasma screen TV in my living room. Oh, by the way, I get to keep the TV.

Why? Why shouldn't people be responsible?

they should be.

but that includes corporations as well doesnt it steve?

what about the credit card companies that are preying on 18 year olds who are green in the world and geeked about that new 5k credit limit that they just got when they shipped off to college...or the guy who gets laid off and cant pay his bills because captain jerko the selfish in the drivers seat needs a multimillion dollar raise.

corporations spend millions if not billions (coke) a year doing everything that they can to get money out of pockets. its seduction.

there needs to be some give and take here.

when a person declares bankrupcy (if they are not donald trump) they are penalized, but the penalty is survivable and has a clear ending.

obviously, these are life lessons...fine...
but what bothers me is the double standard.

and there is alot of that going around.

EagleEyes · « **Reply #74 on:** June 04, 2005, 10:50:43 PM »

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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
spoken like a true Bushmonger, complete with spelling errors!

Wow 1 word spelt wrong, mybad *from* anyways yes i am a, what you call, bushmonger, and obviously you are a Democrate/Libral. Born and raised a Republican. What ticks me off is that if the presidency was the otherway around, had a Democrat for president and did the same thing Bush is doing, everything would be flipped. Democrats would say War was right and Republicans would say the war was wrong. Its all Politics. To me its getting to the point where even if something is good for the country, both sides will argue. One will say its good, the other will say its bad. Like i said before i might not agree on everything, but i am an American, and it won't matter who or what party the president is, i will gladly fight and if must, die to protect freedom in America, just like so many have done before us!

<<>> USA!

~~Egle31st~~