EU: joke of the day.

[Raptor]

Originally posted by SunTracker
The U.S. should have continued in Russia after defeating Germany.  Stalin was much worse than Hitler.  

As for brilliant Soviet tactics, it is no wonder Russia lost 20,000,000 people in World War II while the U.S. lost only a few hundred thousand.  Americans use steel to stop bullets, Soviets use their soldiers.

That would have been a long war if fought conventionally (no A-bombs).
Massed produced shermans vs massed produced T-34s (even though M-26 would have been entering service at this time, not in as large of numbers as sherman)
Then again.. I do wonder what would have happened. After the defeat of Japan the US would have been able to focus on one enemy instead of two. US would have had complete air and sea dominance, and with troops coming in from the Pacific... makes you wonder.

[1K3]

Originally posted by SunTracker
Stalin was much worse than Hitler.

bull****

Stalin is the lesser of 2 evils (in context)

calling for xtermination of races has a lasting effect...

[Raptor]

In numbers of people killed, Stalin is worse.

[Fishu]

What can you expect from the akward history of the USSR...
Had Finland been occupied by the USSR, it would have also read that the government willingly gave up the country.
The winter war would been just a little skirmish between the rebels and russian border guards.

[Staga]

Raptor;

German's problem was that they didn't have means to attack against Russian manufacturing plants and bridges behind the Ural mountains but this wouldn't had been a problem for the thousands of B-29s.

[beet1e]

I think there needs to be a new world club  called "Not in the EU" that non-EU countries could join. In 15 years, it might be smaller than the EU itself.

I've heard that Germany and Italy are thinking of pulling out of the Euro single currency - anyone else know anything about this?

[SunTracker]

The main tank of the U.S at the end of the war was the upgunned M4E8.  The Russians were still using a hodgepodge of T-34s.  Both countries had heavy tanks in small numbers.  The Russians had the Josef Stalin 3 (IS3), the U.S. had the M-26.

The U.S. had a better airforce hands down.  Air superiority would have gone to the U.S.  All targets within reach of B-29s based in Germany would have been bombed.

Numbers wise, the Russians had alot more troops than the U.S.  Both sides had experienced troops.  Now heres where a big variable comes in.  Many German soldiers would have fought against the Russians with the U.S.  *If* the U.S. adopted German squad tactics (which they did in Vietnam), this would offset the numerical advantage the Russians had.  Heck, at the end of the war, the Germans were using MG34s and STG44s in squads.  It would take the U.S. over 20 years to match that firepower.

Naval battles would go for the U.S.  Did the USSR even have aircraft carriers?

[lada]

Originally posted by Drunky
Buck that.  I think the U.S. should join the EU.

lol ... trying to imagine 10 years of US in EU, that big day, when US is trashing their $ and starting to use Euro...... World record in suicides would occur

[beet1e]

Originally posted by lada
lol ... trying to imagine 10 years of US in EU, that big day, when US is trashing their $ and starting to use Euro...... World record in suicides would occur

The hardest thing for some Americans (besides the conversion to Metric etc.) would be the realisation that the USA is not a planet, and that there are other countries in their "solar system".

[lada]

Originally posted by 1K3
bull****

Stalin is the lesser of 2 evils (in context)

calling for xtermination of races has a lasting effect...

actualy question is not whitch one is worster.

Fact it, that Churchil simply sold half of Europe to same type of guy, like Hitler, and when it came to light nobody cared. All brits were happy drinking tea at home. Im not wondering that brits were hated by some people more that Germans. It take a lot of efford to betry your ally 2 times in raw. However we are talking about 60 years old politic, not about contemporary UK.

[Fishu]

Originally posted by beet1e
I've heard that Germany and Italy are thinking of pulling out of the Euro single currency - anyone else know anything about this?

That doesn't sound to me like a reasonable thing to do.
Prolly a hoax or an anti-EU looney in the government talking of his own agendas.
It'd be way too costly to revert back to old currency this soon.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Fishu
It'd be way too costly to revert back to old currency this soon.

Well, it was simple enough for 12 nations to implement the Euro simultaneously on 1/1/2002, so I don't see that it would be prohibitively expensive for one or two countries to pull out - especially (in Germany's case) in view of the economic liberation they would enjoy after years of stagnation with the Euro.

But I agree, it would be expensive - a last resort, and I was surprised myself to hear it being suggested (as a possibility).

[Fishu]

...and it was costly.
I don't see any benefits in reverting back, not so much that it would make right for all the hassle to do it again.

[storch]

Originally posted by beet1e
The hardest thing for some Americans (besides the conversion to Metric etc.) would be the realisation that the USA is not a planet, and that there are other countries in their "solar system".

that is an absolute lie, now back into your orbit you little pipsqueak of a moon particle.

[lazs2]

"The hardest thing for some Americans (besides the conversion to Metric etc.) would be the realisation that the USA is not a planet, and that there are other countries in their "solar system"."

we realize it... it's just that most "other countries"are unable to sustain life as we know it yet.  some of the more backward ones even drive on the wrong side of the road.

lazs