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Offline Suave

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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2005, 08:42:27 AM »
Kids do stupid things, he probably regretted his decision in a matter of minutes. Unless he purposefully did it to aid an enemy, I say live and let live.

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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2005, 09:08:38 AM »
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Judging by how "Honda Fonda" was treated for an act of treason, he will probably be swept up by a publisher while here for a book/movie deal.


I think it would be a fascinating story. That is a really, really strange place. Every now and then I come across a travel log from a "tourist" describing the visit and you just can't stop reading them. Here is an entertaining one:

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When was the last trip you took where:

    * the guide wouldn't allow you to keep your passport?
    * you weren't allowed to use the local currency?
    * criticism of the place you traveled could get a guide into serious trouble?
    * on your return you felt you had to be careful bringing back books, pins and T-shirts because they might be illegal?

All this and more can be yours with a trip to the DPRK, the Democratic Peoples Republic of Orwellian Country Names, better known as North Korea. In an age where you can get Starbucks on Thai islands, Baskin-Robbins in Saigon, Coke and McDonalds just about everywhere, it's nice to finally visit a place lacking even the knowledge of such things. The most end-of-the-earth Chinese villager knows of Michael Jordan. In North Korea our big city Pyongyang guides had no clue who he was - until we pointed out his name on an autographed basketball in the Gifts to Kim Jong-il Museum. Then they were sure he must be someone really important. A mere basketball player? No way!



http://www.1stopkorea.com/index.htm?nk-trip9-myohyang-mountain.htm


[edit: for some reason the link starts in the middle of the travelog. use the menu at bottom to select the introduction and go from there]

I jokingly suggested to my wife that we go to N. Korea for our honeymoon, but she didn't agree :)

Charon
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2005, 11:34:26 AM »
I'm less than charmed.

The guy should be met at the airport by the men that were in his unit in Korea.
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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2005, 12:38:51 PM »
If I remember right, Lemsko was the origin of the name Amerihater.  About him, not from him.

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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2005, 01:49:37 PM »
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Originally posted by Charon
I think it would be a fascinating story. That is a really, really strange place. Every now and then I come across a travel log from a "tourist" describing the visit and you just can't stop reading them. Here is an entertaining one:




http://www.1stopkorea.com/index.htm?nk-trip9-myohyang-mountain.htm

I jokingly suggested to my wife that we go to N. Korea for our honeymoon, but she didn't agree :)

Charon


For real we went to Gettysburg for our honeymoon.
Figured what beter place to start a marriage then on a battle feild.:)
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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2005, 01:56:49 PM »
100,000 soldiers a day is the number Im hearing on the bsb
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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2005, 02:08:39 PM »
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http://www.1stopkorea.com/index.htm?nk-trip9-myohyang-mountain.htm




Interesting link, thanks.

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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2005, 03:11:50 PM »
I think he needs to go back to that worker paradise he spent 40 years in. No reason for him to come to the US, it's not his country and hasn't been for over 40 years. It's a sure bet we can do without him.
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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2005, 03:52:13 PM »
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So gixer my amerihater little friend... how many Americans are deserting these days?    0?  5?  500?


The true deserters are back in the homeland, the people who doesn't volunteer to armed service due to the Iraq situation.
If you haven't heard, the army is unable to get as many draftees as it is used to and the number seems to be dropping.

As the Iraqi information minister would say: "ridiculos, there is no link to the iraq situation"

I find it amusing to read patriotic comments made by those whos in the safety of their homes.


and when speaking for all of us foreigners, it has nothing to do with hating america or it's people, it is the hate towards it's current political direction.
Just like some of the americans have replied to the russians implying americans as russohaters.

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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2005, 04:08:58 PM »
If any of you remember the original story from a few months ago, when the guy made it out of NK to Japan, he voluntarily gave himself up to the Army for trial.  Also, the  guy has the IQ of a kid, and was in a position of being put in command of a unit in Korea that he would have to carry over to Vietnam.  He was scared to death, not just for himself, but for the people he was supposed to command.  Scared, couldnt turn down his promotion, knew he was going to Vietnam, he just walked off into the DMZ at night and gave himself over to the NK.  His life there was a living hell, and IMO more than serves as his sentence for deserting the army when he wasn't in a war.  I doubt any of those in his former unit hold it against him, and if they do I would think they would feel more pity than anger.  He didnt burn the flag or spit on it or do any number of things protesters did.  He just left.  During that time he fell in love with and married a kidnapped Japanese woman, and had children.  He was horrified by the way the NK were trying to program his children, so he decided to give himself up to the Army as a deserter so his children could get away.

The man isnt in good health.  He has to live the rest of his life in Japan, when he barely speaks Japanese.  He has many things to be thankful for, but I'd say he has suffered enough.

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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2005, 05:39:44 PM »
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I think he needs to go back to that worker paradise he spent 40 years in. No reason for him to come to the US, it's not his country and hasn't been for over 40 years. It's a sure bet we can do without him.


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« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2005, 05:45:25 PM »
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If any of you remember the original story from a few months ago, when the guy made it out of NK to Japan, he voluntarily gave himself up to the Army for trial.  Also, the  guy has the IQ of a kid, and was in a position of being put in command of a unit in Korea that he would have to carry over to Vietnam.  He was scared to death, not just for himself, but for the people he was supposed to command.  Scared, couldnt turn down his promotion, knew he was going to Vietnam, he just walked off into the DMZ at night and gave himself over to the NK.  His life there was a living hell, and IMO more than serves as his sentence for deserting the army when he wasn't in a war.  I doubt any of those in his former unit hold it against him, and if they do I would think they would feel more pity than anger.  He didnt burn the flag or spit on it or do any number of things protesters did.  He just left.  During that time he fell in love with and married a kidnapped Japanese woman, and had children.  He was horrified by the way the NK were trying to program his children, so he decided to give himself up to the Army as a deserter so his children could get away.

The man isnt in good health.  He has to live the rest of his life in Japan, when he barely speaks Japanese.  He has many things to be thankful for, but I'd say he has suffered enough.


Life is full of choices. We lived with ours.

He can live with his.
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« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2005, 05:47:23 PM »
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Originally posted by Fishu
The true deserters are back in the homeland, the people who doesn't volunteer to armed service due to the Iraq situation.
If you haven't heard, the army is unable to get as many draftees as it is used to and the number seems to be dropping.

As the Iraqi information minister would say: "ridiculos, there is no link to the iraq situation"

I find it amusing to read patriotic comments made by those whos in the safety of their homes.


and when speaking for all of us foreigners, it has nothing to do with hating america or it's people, it is the hate towards it's current political direction.
Just like some of the americans have replied to the russians implying americans as russohaters.



Well said, unfortunetly Fishu so many can't understand those points through their Bush coated lenses.


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« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2005, 06:40:21 PM »
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Well said, unfortunetly Fishu so many can't understand those points through their Bush coated lenses.


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Edit: not worth the energy or time.

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« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2005, 06:56:17 PM »
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If you haven't heard, the army is unable to get as many draftees as it is used to and the number seems to be dropping.

 



the US army does not use draftees. if you haven't heard.