Author Topic: Nash....at Charon's request (Read 2379 times)

Toad · « **on:** June 09, 2005, 11:39:57 PM »

The Serpent of Old.

TSoO.

Blitz right? Hero of the People?

Whatever. Pretty garden-variety America basher from my pov.

Toad · « **Reply #1 on:** June 09, 2005, 11:45:17 PM »

And I deleted my posts in that thread... which makes yours look like they're Plan 9 From Outer Space.

Might want to vaporize them. Your call.

Nash · « **Reply #2 on:** June 09, 2005, 11:47:13 PM »

Nice.

Nash · « **Reply #3 on:** June 09, 2005, 11:58:27 PM »

I edited my posts in that thread to make me look less the non-sequitur babbling idiot due to your deleting yours (for some reason). So it's all good.

Raindeer games.

Toad · « **Reply #4 on:** June 10, 2005, 12:03:49 AM »

See my reply in the other thread. I don't mind if you move 'em here but I feel bad about 'jackin that thread. Charon was right.

Fine by me if you wanna leave 'em, move 'em here, whatever; your call.

Feel free to continue to dance all about singing his praises here if you like. Don't really care, glad he's gone, don't miss him a bit.

Oh..... and this thread is really going nowhere fast too. Did want to give you the 33rd level Mason's key to TSoO though. Don't want to get too cryptic.

Must be near bedtime.

Nash · « **Reply #5 on:** June 10, 2005, 12:13:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
:)Feel free to continue to dance all about singing his praises here if you like.

I didn't sing his praises. I merely repeated his claim to fame. "Iraq a threat to USA? It's redikulouse!" And I did that in asking who the hell you were talking about.

Turns out yeah, you were talking about him. Why? I suppose we'll never know.

And I expressed remorse over his command of the english language. Because he got pounded on by folks like you on a daily basis. Like a weak gazelle in one of those Africa movies.

And I said, well, whoops, it turns out that he was right, and that you of the proud 101st Fighting Keyboarders were much less so, no?

And now he's gone. As if driven off by the Legions of the Wrong.

Only to re-emerge, by proxy, through your calling him some kind of serpent of evil.

Like,... bah.

Toad · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2005, 12:22:34 AM »

Touching.

He got pounded on alright, but not due to his command or lack of same of the language. He got pounded on for posting a lot of unsupported BS. Yeah, he may have turned out right on a couple of things but he was way wrong on a lot more.

101st Fighting Keyboarders? Legion of the Wrong? I'm tearing up.

As if.

Nash · « **Reply #7 on:** June 10, 2005, 12:29:27 AM »

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He got pounded on for posting a lot of unsupported BS

lol, Jesus Christ. His unsupported BS trumped your unsupported BS by a country mile. By like, ten of them. A lot of them. Many many many unsupported miles of BS.

But hell, those were heady times. Fast. You had to pummel, and pummel well, and there just wasn't enough time in the day to really think about what it was, on balance, you were actualy saying.

And.... hey, it cost ya. In as much as being dead wrong costs one. Which is, lets be honest here for a sec, dick all these days.

Though.. I notice.

Thrawn · « **Reply #8 on:** June 10, 2005, 12:55:06 AM »

Jesus, I thought I was drunk but apparently not drunk enough.

Torque · « **Reply #9 on:** June 10, 2005, 01:08:50 AM »

no, he enjoyed cannabis oil.

Toad · « **Reply #10 on:** June 10, 2005, 08:33:08 AM »

LOL.

Notice this. He got banned.

No other poster had that power to do that to him, he did it all by himself.

The WMD issue was opinion on both sides in those heady, heady days. Hindsight is a wonderful thing for you.

But as I said, his non-stop BS attacks on the US are what put in the position he was in.

Not unlike some others here that are already on the 3rd or 4th incarnation of their BBS lives.

Charon · « **Reply #11 on:** June 10, 2005, 09:05:16 AM »

I was joking a bit Toad. I probably shouldnt have erased my diversion on Satan, Joseph Stalin and the Katyn Forest massacre with the follow up on Jesus and the 2nd ammendment

Charon

Airhead · « **Reply #12 on:** June 10, 2005, 09:41:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad

The WMD issue was opinion on both sides in those heady, heady days. Hindsight is a wonderful thing for you.

Opinion? C'mon Toad, it was not- it was a deliberate spin to sell America on an invasion. There was no threat of "imminent attack" by Sadaam Hussien against his neighbors- as most of the world knew at the time and which some of you are just coming to realize.

You can call it "opinion" all you like, but face it- you were flat out wrong.

Yeager · « **Reply #13 on:** June 10, 2005, 10:07:16 AM »

it was a deliberate spin to sell America on an invasion.
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you really believe that? your being tooled bro.

Really....its all about war. pick your side and get pounded on, simple as that. always has been always will be, until the lights go out one last time.

I prefer to stick with the white hats, you black hats are going down

Toad · « **Reply #14 on:** June 10, 2005, 11:44:16 AM »

Well, Air, I certainly remember this.

Of all the "dead certain" folks that KNEW "it was a deliberate spin to sell America on an invasion", that KNEW there absolutely were no WMD at all..... and there was a fairly large group of these folks........

NONE of those wanted to take up a small wager of AH time on whether or not WMD would be found. NONE. You were in those threads and you didn't take the wager, for example.

Nash, who I don't put in that camp, took up the wager and I think if you look up his posts from that time you'll find he wasn't certain at all.

He had this to say at that time:

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I didn't see the thread where the clock had started... but I assume it goes for our wager also Toad (or whenever u want)?

As far as I'm concerned, *everyone* was going on guesses. Due to that, bragging about any which way this turned out (and will turn out) is absurd.

"I was right, you were wrong" is the same as saying "Gee aint I smart - neither of us had any information, but I made a better guess than you". So I think it's silly to see or do any bragging on it.

Hindsight. A handy thing for the "winners" of the WMD argument because they can brag they were right. A handy thing for the losers because it forces reflection.

I admit my belief turned out to be incorrect. It wasn't because I was in some vast right wing conspiracy to sell America on an invasion. It was because all I had read, the people I had talked to directly, people I had worked with in Recon led me to the conclusion SH had WMD.

So, I accept that I was wrong. I've been wrong before. I've also said here that if it can be shown that Bush deliberately lied or doctored intel, that he should be prosecuted. I also feel that since we made the mess, we've got to clean it up. I realize that's going to cost both blood and treasure.

But what's done is done. I can't deny what I said, I admit I turned out to be wrong. Not much more that I can do in that arena. I've turned my efforts to towards other areas as my atonement.