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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2005, 02:04:49 PM »
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I hate japanese planes with a passion. Not because they're tough to kill because they aren't at all. American men, american planes... American Iron. I should say Allie. But you get the idea.

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This is incomprehensible to me.  I truely do not understand how somebody who is decades removed from the war could think this way.
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« Reply #46 on: June 09, 2005, 02:27:42 PM »
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This is incomprehensible to me.  I truely do not understand how somebody who is decades removed from the war could think this way.


I don't know that it's incomprehensible.  My heros from the time I was a little kid were Allied fighter and bomber pilots.  

I fly Allied iron, 38s and Spits for the most part.  I don't hate LW or Japanese stuff, they just don't interest me as much.

I'll fly Emil's on occasion as that's the LW bird whose history interests me the most, but overall it's Allied iron for me also.

There are certainly enough LW fanatics out there that won't fly anything but the birds they're interested in as well.

Hate is probably too strong a word though :)

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« Reply #47 on: June 09, 2005, 02:29:37 PM »
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Why not?  The real one had them.


Apparently you missed my posts from above. Please go back and read those for my point.

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« Reply #48 on: June 09, 2005, 02:33:40 PM »
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I fly Allied iron, 38s and Spits for the most part.  I don't hate LW or Japanese stuff, they just don't interest me as much

I understand that perfectly.  I don't understand actual hate.  Complete indifference is understandable.


Midnight,

You mean the whiny P-38 fanatic's blather?

I dismissed it as the complete fabrication and persecution complex BS it is.
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« Reply #49 on: June 09, 2005, 02:41:54 PM »
I think we have met the bridge of the aided pilot in AH at this point.  

Mustang pilots have never had an automatic K-14, and N1K pilots don't have auto-deploying flaps.

Do the 109's have auto deploying slats?


Regardless, we have reached the slippery slope of what is too much of an aid to a player in the game.  I believe we have to be very careful here about what comes into the game and what stays out.

It seems to me that an auto-deploying flap system on an already tight turning a/c such as the N1K would change the balance of the fight quite unnaturally.

The only REAL answer to all of this is to say that if one plane has 'em, the rest of the planes have to have their historical benifits.  Therefore, -51's and -47's would have auto-computing gunsites and make short work of the new flappy wonder anyway :D

I guess all I'm saying is be careful what you ask for- you just might get it.

My gut tells me HTC will release it with auto-deploying flaps, and it's all you'll ever see in the furballs.  HTC will then see what an unbalanced machine it is (like the CHog), and assign it a perk value of like 10 or something.  Nothing major, but a lot of guys wouldn't want to take up a fragile plane like that on 10 points.  

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« Reply #50 on: June 09, 2005, 03:32:29 PM »
Completely unnecessary. I fly the Nik a lot and I almost never get slow enough to deploy the flaps. Maybe at the top of a loop or steep pitch back but I retract them as soon as the nose starts down. I don't T-N-B low and slow with Spits and Zekes, I take them into the vertical where the Nik2 shines. (Unless I'm already dead :lol )

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« Reply #51 on: June 09, 2005, 04:06:31 PM »
I really wouldn't mind if some planes had the k-14 or not.  IIRC you need to track the con for 2-3 secs before it will apply the correct lead.  It will only be useful for the inexperienced IMO which is why i wouldn't mind at all.

Likewise I have no problem with the n1ks flaps being modelled accurately.  It is a different matter all together to the flap autorectract/limits/damage argumuments.  

I personally don't have an issue with the auto-retract feature.  I've put my mossie into stalls/spins the p38 pilots only have nightmares about.:D
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« Reply #52 on: June 09, 2005, 04:17:20 PM »
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Then, why not getting an aimbot, so we can get rid of all this aiming cr*p? After all, we are all here to have fun and fight, not immersive gun aiming...  ;)

 


Man I could really use one of those.  Ask that 190 that was LHAO at me last night after I emptied the full Spit ammo on him from d200 to d400. :lol
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« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2005, 01:34:12 PM »
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This is incomprehensible to me.  I truely do not understand how somebody who is decades removed from the war could think this way.


Well I guess that's where you and I are different.  

I love US planes. Planes like the P51 or the P47 or the Corsair, seeing one in real life, imagining what it was like to have faught in one. I just dont get that same feeling about Axis planes. Sure they are great. Very cool indeed.

The P51's are just sexier. As are the 38's, corsairs, and P47s hell even the P40... than any of the other axis fighters. My opinion ofcourse. I can't leave out the Tempest or any of the spits. ;)


I just feel cheap flying a Nik or a zeek or a Ki.
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« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2005, 01:42:37 PM »
Morpheus,

I definatley understand having aircraft that you like and those that are uninvolving to you.  We all have our lists and why the things on them are there can and is for a myriad of reasons.

However I don't understand hating the other stuff or believing that it should only be in flames and breaking up.


Aircraft I like:

Spitfire, Mosquito, P-38, Fw190, A6M, Ki-84, Il-2.

But there are no aircraft that I really hate, not even the La-7. :p
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« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2005, 03:15:31 PM »
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I just feel cheap flying a Nik or a zeek or a Ki.


:mad:  Hey.  Those KIs cost me a ton of money man.  They are not cheap!

Well, I have to ask.  Why do you feel cheap in a NIKI?  Other than ammo load it has nothing to say against a Spit, I think.
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« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2005, 03:31:51 PM »
A Honda civic is cheap.

An original Ford Thunderbolt with a 427 side oiler is sexy.

Get it?
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« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2005, 03:41:03 PM »
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A Honda civic is cheap.

An original Ford Thunderbolt with a 427 side oiler is sexy.

Get it?


I got reaped off on that KI?
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« Reply #58 on: June 10, 2005, 03:45:00 PM »
on the auto flaps thing....

i scare myself for saying thie, because anything to "help" the n1k2 is bad for AH in my opinion LOL


but they seem to me like leading edge slats, which auto deploy, and supposedly help. if the plane had that particular air frame feature and functionality it should be in game


im NOT talking about gunsights or whatever, because then you have to demand the glide bomb sight for the 234, and rear gunner periscope, among TONS of other things.

oh well thats my thought on the situation
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