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Offline Krusher

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« on: June 10, 2005, 08:26:18 PM »
Anyone watching this?

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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2005, 11:43:34 PM »
I recorded it while I was at work. Just started watching episode 1 now. I have high hopes since it's a Spielberg production. We'll see.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2005, 09:28:12 AM »
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I recorded it while I was at work. Just started watching episode 1 now. I have high hopes since it's a Spielberg production. We'll see.


Its no too bad.  

The scenery alone makes it watchable.

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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2005, 09:50:50 AM »
does it show how the evil white man slaughtered all the peace loveing red hippies?

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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2005, 10:08:54 AM »
Good show. Been looking forward to seeing it. so far Im not dissapointed
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2005, 10:10:35 AM »
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does it show how the evil white man slaughtered all the peace loveing red hippies?

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Heh. come and try to take my land from me and I'd have become a peace loving red hippie too just like them.

And the White man did slaugheter em.
in more ways then one.
Including intentionally selling them blankets contaminated with the Small Pox Virus (germ warfare)
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2005, 10:46:39 AM »
I thought the first espisode was average.

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Including intentionally selling them blankets contaminated with the Small Pox Virus (germ warfare)


I've seen this statement many times. I've never seen any documentation of that however, other than the British General Amherst suggesting it in a letter in 1763 and one of his Colonels reporting that he did so.

"There is no evidence that Col. Bouquet took any action on Amherst's letter, but there is evidence that Captain Ecuyer at Fort Pitt did."

Have you any other examples?

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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2005, 09:38:26 AM »
taking their land away?   You are aware that those peace loving hippies were slaughtering each other over land before we got there?

You are also aware that indians for the most part had no concept of land ownership and the person who could take it owned it.... we played by their rules.

you do know that the tribes that did claim ownership were most often bartered out of their land and that either they, or another tribe would not recognize the agreement.  We played their rules...

For the most part... they were murdering, torturing savages who were their own worst enemies... they destroyed any land they stayed on and when it got to barren or hunted out they moved to the next patch... only their barbaric medical practices, tribal warfare and infant mortality kept them from killing the entire continent.  

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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2005, 09:48:02 AM »
I went to high school with Irene Bedard:



She was also the voice and image basis for the animated film Pocahontas.

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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2005, 01:29:46 PM »
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does it show how the evil white man slaughtered all the peace loveing red hippies?

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damm , lazs, you beat me to it.

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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2005, 03:51:52 PM »
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You are also aware that indians for the most part had no concept of land ownership and the person who could take it owned it.... we played by their rules.

   

lazs


And YOU should be aware that now the Indians are playing by OUR Rules, and making major bank in Indian casinos. But I won't cry over the way the Indians were treated historically if you don't cry because they've negotiated a degree of soventry that allows them economic freedom.

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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2005, 05:33:52 PM »
nope... no crying here..  If they make or lose a deal it is on them..  It is fortunate that they let the mafia run their casinos tho but...

like the settling of the west...  they won't keep their tax free status much longer... just don't cry when they lose it.

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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2005, 06:44:58 PM »
the big fish eats the smaller fish...so fourth and so on.

Get over it.
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2005, 12:35:51 AM »
Damn. Laz sounds like he lived/living in the 1840's

And are YOU aware the the indian tribes never broke a treaty?
thats right every treaty broken was broken by the white man
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2005, 12:39:24 AM »
the only thing an Iroquois is good for, when it's time to frame up a constitution.