A nice comic for y'all (and to start a 30+ hate posts thread)

[Fariz]

Originally posted by Ripsnort:
There are so many inaccuracies in that cartoon that its not even worth responding to!

Totally agree! Fishes can't speak, and can't hold objects in their fins.

[Raubvogel]

I bet the fish with the flag could kick the other one's ass.

[GRUNHERZ]

I dont really see how my well justified hatred of communism and extrme leftists makes me anything seeker or 10bears say.

Listen up guys I grew up in a communist country, Ive seen the wonder of communism/socialism at work. And now Im in the SF Bay Area with all its little college campus pop-socialists and communists who are the same people that vandalized Seattle in the extremist WTO riots. How do I know they are the same? Well a bunch of leftists and pop-socialists at my school went to Seattle and  they bragged about their training to resist police and organize violence. I was honestly shocked to see that so many extreme leftists are in the USA, are these people stupid why do they want communism. I dont understand them very well, I think it because they are rich and comfortable from USA eocnomy and think any socioeconmic structure can bring the same result because they know nothing else.  BTW when I say "leftist" I dont mean in terms of Left/Right USA politics as in the Democrats and the Republiacans or Liberals or Conservatives, both are fine and vital counterparts to true American political life. I mean in terms of "leftists" being anti democratic anti american  communist/socialist fringe elements excatly like the neo-nazis today are nazi/fascist anti democratic anti american fringe groups. Both are nuts, both are dangerous and both should be confronted and challenged whenever they or their ideas surface. Nazism and Communism were virtually identical before and they sure still are today.

More about communism,  

I hate communism, I hate rich college kid and rich western euro pop-socialists even more. These are the same people who hate world trade, who hate democracy, many are anarchists, most preach class and racial warfare/politics (like the nazis and communists did BTW) and nearly all hate the USA and dont want the USA to defend itself in response to 911 act of war. I honestly diddlying hate and despise these people, and if any of you are those people well then I honestly hate you and hope you may be unsuccesful in your life and generally unhappy.

Im very passionate and honest with my feelings aout communism and the current "anti-american" people. Sometimes my comments get very emotional, but thats who I am and Im proud of it because I love this country which quite litrally saved my life and has given me many new oppritunities. Those who hate it or take it for granted may not be able to understand, but thats the truth about me.

[Animal]

Where did you grow up Grun?

[mrfish]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
And now Im in the SF Bay Area with all its little college campus pop-socialists and communists who are the same people that vandalized Seattle in the extremist WTO riots.

yeah! woohoo i hate those lil toejams too!

you remind me of a croatian guy that hangs out at the pub in my neighborhood. he hates communism and oddly enough really kicks bellybutton on trivia night.

   

[ 11-27-2001: Message edited by: mrfish ]

[Lance]

ROFL!  Animal, you need an FDB medal of merit for this thread.

[GRUNHERZ]

Im Croatian Animal, so I grew up in the old Yugoslavia.

Now Yugosalvia was actually one of the nicer Communist states to live in as standard of living was quite good. In fact many die hard communist appologists often point to Yugosalvia as an example of succesful socialism/communism. However they always ignore one key fact, the tons of American and Western money given to Tito for his rejection of Stalin and his official neutrality in the Warsaw Pact/NATO standoff.
This money, reportedly somewhere over $20-30 Billion is what made Yougosalvias socialist wonder look so comfy, and its why many communist appologists refer to the country with affection.

In fact under this glitter of western aid money, the country was a standard lazy corrupt and opressive communist dictatorship. It just could get by without major crises because of the money. when the money ran out it began to fold like all unsustainable communst hack jobs.


So yes communism can work if somebody else is paying the bills and the communists arent responsible for sustaining themselves.

[ 11-27-2001: Message edited by: GRUNHERZ ]

[Hangtime]

Did the Yugo car program die before or after you left?

(jk!)

[GRUNHERZ]

Heh,   the Yugo is actually an Italian car that was assembled in Serbian factories, the Croatians had nothing to do with it. (though honestly its not like that we'd do it any better).


another funny thing about Yugo.

I heard that some Bay Area Cadillac dealerships were actually offering a free Yugo with each Cadillac bought. Kind of like a free dhingy you might get with a Boat purchase.  

[SOB]

The polls are closed, the ballots have all been counted . . . ANIMAL IS THE WINNER!!!

 


SOB

[Seeker]

None so prudish as a reformed potato.

[Animal]

I specially like the flag waiver at the top of the comic, saying to nuke the whole region.

His face looks simple, yet hilarious  

[capt. apathy]

man I never get tired of hearing this same old argument(both sides).  must be the 20th time I’ve seen it this month under various thread names.

wish I could remember who to credit with this quote-"getting involved in this argument is a lot like the special Olympics. even if you win, you're still a tard"

[fd ski]

Grun, i'm not gonna quote your long winded post, too much editting.

Few things.

How old are you ?
Just out of curiosity. I could swear that you posed somewhere while back that you are 22. Do i remember correctly ?

As for your hate of all the groups you mention, take a nice little step back and look at what you wrote. Just think about it for few minutes. Look at insults combined with stereotypes there. Looks familiar ?

There is something that you don't seem to understand about this new country of yours, despite all your despreate flag waving and hatred you spew here.

FREE SPEACH.
I can post any opinion i want. Anyone can.
Hell, i'm entitiled to it. I still have my military ID. I served this country. I earned this. Did you ?

You are entitled to your hate and stereotypes, just as much as i'm entitled to my opinion, but there is a distinct difference between someone's different political/sociological/ideological viewpoint, and blanket hate of all things that in your twisted mind resemble something that you remember.

Let me see if i got it correctly.
Anti trade = Communist ? How exacly did you figure that out ?
Rich kid in rich school = hate USA ?
Anti globalization = anti democracy ?
How do you manage to draw those conclusions ?
Have you for a minute listened and tried to understand what those people are saying, without predetermined response ? I'm not suggesting you should agree with them, but drawing such blanketing equation suggests premeditated reason.

I have to quote this:
 

I mean in terms of "leftists" being anti democratic anti american communist/socialist fringe elements excatly like the neo-nazis today are nazi/fascist anti democratic anti american fringe groups. Both are nuts, both are dangerous and both should be confronted and challenged whenever they or their ideas surface. Nazism and Communism were virtually identical before and they sure still are today.

Neo nazi groups are VERY patriotic if you would care to look at them. But you only needed something to smear right ?
How did you figure anti american = communist ? Didn't you get your e-mail notification about cold war being over ?
Confronted and challenged ? How ? Maybe if we tell them
 

ur a piece of toejam amazinhunk of the first order.
diddly You you piece of America hating dog toejam.

maybe then they will see the light of our ways  and wrongs of theirs ?


You are welcome to have an opinion, please do. We might not agree, and i still won't care. But with statements you just made in this post, i seem to fall in at least 2 groups you mention due to my opinions, and you feel i should be "confronted and challenged" for having them.
Franky, if you lived though genocide in Balcans, of all people, you should know where this sort of thinking leads. Think about it.

[GRUNHERZ]

Yes I have talked to many of them, the people I call "leftists". There are tons of them at my college. What I hear from every one at my school is nearly the same as I see on signs at the WTO protests, from people like dowding and blur and many in the media who have come out against the american war effort in the 911 war.

Lets touch specifically on a few points.

Anti-american.

They all oppose the USA defending itself and want the UN to do it and oppose US military action to solve the problem.

They all attack US allies in the war, call them names, try to make them seem evil. Same for the USA.

"AMERICA IS THE TERRORIST" Poster at "anti-war" rally at my school.

Look at webpage: www.counterpoint.org  I just saw it last nite and Im shocked, all the same things as my lil pop-socialsts say at the school.  

Anti-trade.

Seattle, Prague, Toronto, Genoa, etc. Need I say more. Again the same tired old slogans and plenty of communists and radicals. People at my school, the leftists, participated in many of these coordinated and violent attacks on the cities.

Anti-Democracy.

Many are Anarchists who hate the US government and US legal traditions. I have heard from them that they dont belive in US elections since they belive the vast majority of people are too stupid to make the "correct decision", (read: they disagree with them and dont vote for Nader). Communism is not democracy. Many are communists.

Im so mad because Im sorrounded by these people and there is no way to reason with them?

Yes im about 22.

I dont really think neo-nazis are patriotic, their goal is to take down the government, take over the country and basically destroy it. The leftists want the same thing, just in a diffrent way. Neither are patriots.

fd-ski

Please tell me what you would like to see done regarding this war?