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Offline FOGOLD

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« on: June 21, 2005, 11:08:16 AM »
We are finally getting Broadband in July Huzzah!

Can someone tell me which is the best way to connect for AH or other games and which is best for top security on a work machine.

Does a router handle a single broadband connection, allowing all networked PC's to connect as well as handle LAN duties?

Is it best to avoid the firewalls in routers and stick to a software firewall (Or Nforce 4 firewall)?

What's this "Stateful Packet Inspection" stuff? As far as I can see it will slow down the connection and cause problems with AH.

I'm quite confused with the different options, although I know that Ethernet is better than USB connection.

I can see that if there is a firewall on the router, LAN connections will be simpler beacuse all individual firewalls can be turned off.

I have read Skuzzy's internet connection sticky but am still slightly confused.

Thanks in advance and I am aware that there will be different opinions on all this.;)

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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2005, 01:21:12 PM »
I'll try to tackle some of these for you, although as you might have guessed there are several opinions on almost all your questions.

I'm not really sure what you mean by the first question?  "Best way to connect".............what does that mean?  What are you looking for specifically from that question?  Security is what you make it.  Are you asking whether or not to RUN security programs during online gaming?  

I'm not sure what type of connection you are talking about when you say "broadband."  Thats a generic term.  But whether you have Cable, DSL, Wi-Fi, or ISDN, you will have a "modem" that connects to your provider's hookup in your home.  You can either plug this directly into your computer, OR you can run it through a router.  A router basically "routes" traffic between your modem and however many devices are plugged into it's hub (most small home network routers have 4 to 6 ports in the hub).  These devices making up your "network" can be other computers, a network printer, etc.  

Dont avoid the firewall in your router.  It's your first line of defense, and often your best.  One thing you DO want to do, as soon as your home network is setup, is to go into the router's control software and change the access password.  This is usually set by default to some generic password like "1 2 3 4".  If you leave it, it can be easily bypassed.

A Stateful filter, or Dynamic filter, is one of 2 different types of packet filters you'll find in firewalls.  The other is called a Static filter.  Static filters just read the headers of each packet, and then sort them according to preset rules defined by the administrator.  Quick, simple and easy, and very non-intrusive for the most part.  Stateful, or dynamic filters, read more deeply into the packets, and maintain a table that collects information on packet stream connections.  Basically its a much more intelligent firewall setup, that can detect more types of intrusions and keep them out.  It is also far more intrusive to your connection.  You won't notice it when browsing the web most of the time.  But it could definitely slow things down for online gaming (IMO).  I'm sure there is a way to set certain connections as "trusted" just as you would in a software firewall.  Most router control software is brand specific though.

Ethernet is DEFINITELY the way to go for a broadband connection, you want to stay away from the USB modems.

Yes, you can turn off individual firewalls, but you dont have to.  And really, during web browsing I would recommend you keep your software firewalls running, as well as the router (although I turn mine off for playing Aces High or other online games).  Opinions will vary on this.  If someone is determined to hack their way into your computer, they can probably find a way no matter how many layers of security you put up.  What I like is that the software firewalls on your computer are far more interactive and user friendly than the hardware firewalls.  Even if someone does get through and plant malware or spyware on your comp, a good software firewall will pick up the outgoing transmission and give you the chance to shut it down.  Then you can track down the origin file and stomp it into oblivion.

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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2005, 01:30:26 PM »
Thanks, that is a help.

Sorry about the vaguness. I really meant what type of device for ADSL,  ( I think) but that's ok I get that bit.

I was  wondering whether to have a router serve both my PC's or have a seperate physical connection for games and work , since security is more of an issue on work machine obviously but I don't want lost packets during AH play.

Stateful packet firewall doesn't really look like the way to go for a gaming set up.

Sorry I'm just thinking aloud here. Thanks for the input.

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2005, 03:57:17 PM »
The router can easily serve both of your PCs.  Thats what they do.  As for the packet filter type, I'm sure there must be a way to let specified traffic through without all the hassles.  Maybe not.  You'd need someone more knowledgable than myself about network specifics.  

Good luck!

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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2005, 08:03:45 PM »
LOCAL conditions are going to be the biggest factor in your performance.
If when you first get "hooked up" and the performance isnt what you expected ,,,,, it will probably not change much no matter what you do to your system or what the provider tries doing for you. .. it will most likely just suck all the way through your futile attempts to remedy it...change provider if possible.

Tried cable, it suxed both upstream and down in my central city area.

Tried cable 18 blocks awy at my brothers and it rocks rock solid, using my comp. (my wiring is even newer than his).

Tried Sat and it realllly suxed.

Got DSL and it rocks rock solid at my location, even with 3 of my neighbors i have wepped/mac-id into it using SuperG, lol.



router smouter, most work just fine with the built in FWs' and nothing else, unless you have some kinda weapons of mass destruction plans on your comp. then you better put up some more curtains.

Anti virus, keep it off, zone alarm and the like ilk  keep off.

Set up a "gaming" config on your comp to shut down all the stupid "Services" used by mickeyXP that easily done thru mickeyXP. shut down all web update programs .. virus, music ect...

if you're goin wireless router ck your signal strength at your location within the structure...if its not at 90%+ run a cable, even if the cable is 100' long it will not affect your conn. any visible amount.

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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2005, 11:48:55 PM »
I'm not going wireless. Pc's very close together.

Thanks for more input. Will go with a Linksys AG241.

Anyone got tips on setting it up for AH, port settings etc?

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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2005, 01:46:08 AM »
It should be good out of the box.  Email Skuzzy and ask him about what ports AH needs, so you can make sure they are open.  Once that's done, it should be all you need to do (other than setup your password to get into the setup for your FW).  

Good luck!

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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2005, 11:53:48 AM »
Thanks for your replies everyone. Much appreciated.

I think Skuzzy lays out the ports on his sticky on connections.

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2005, 12:16:16 PM »
you don't need to open any ports to play, only if you want to host an H2H game
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2005, 01:04:05 PM »
Some routers by default have certain ports closed that need to be open for gaming.  Dont know which, but I do remember reading it before.