Gay Marriage

[Silat]

Originally posted by Martlet
No, it's about equal RIGHTS for all Americans.  

If you guys don't see that then I weep for all America.

Im glad you see that we are all equal to be what we want to be. Even you..
And you are just a copy cat

[Jackal1]

See Rule #5

[Donzo]

Originally posted by Silat
It is not about what the MAJORITY wants. Its about equal freedoms for all Americans.
If you guys dont see that then I weep for America.

Equal freedoms?
1) Can I, as a heterosexual male, marry another male?  - NO
2) Can a homosexual male marry another male?  - NO
3) Can I, as a heterosexual male, marry a woman  -  YES, as long as she or I am not presently married.
4) Can a homosexual male marry a woman  - YES, as long as neither of them is presently married.

So where is the inequality between homosexuals and heterosexuals as it pertains to marriage?  In this context, where does a homosexual have less "freedom" than a heterosexual?

[Silat]

Originally posted by Jackal1
See Rule #5

You spend way to much time thinking about others sex lives. No one is gay in my family.
It is not against the grain for me to support anyone who has found their mate to be able to get married as you can. But it is apparently against the grain for you to allow that .
You are getting very personal with me.
Dont attack me when its Gays and who knows who else that you are against.

[Silat]

Originally posted by Donzo
Equal freedoms?
1) Can I, as a heterosexual male, marry another male?  - NO
2) Can a homosexual male marry another male?  - NO
3) Can I, as a heterosexual male, marry a woman  -  YES, as long as she or I am not presently married.
4) Can a homosexual male marry a woman  - YES, as long as neither of them is presently married.

So where is the inequality between homosexuals and heterosexuals as it pertains to marriage?  In this context, where does a homosexual have less "freedom" than a heterosexual?

Ill simplify this for you.
You can marry for love.
But you dont want someone else to do the same.
Clear enough for you?

[Donzo]

Originally posted by Silat
Ill simplify this for you.
You can marry for love.
But you dont want someone else to do the same.
Clear enough for you?

Not exactly.
I love my brother.  Should I be allowed to marry him?
If not, then why not?

[Silat]

Originally posted by Donzo
Not exactly.
I love my brother.  Should I be allowed to marry him?
If not, then why not?

If you love your brother it is none of my business. Get it?

[AVRO1]

Originally posted by Masherbrum Oh, they ARE married?!  Can they conceive a child?  Sit down sir.

If the goal of marriage is to have children then sterile people should not be allowed to marry.

So sit down yourself.

[AVRO1]

Originally posted by Silat IN the US the rightwing Christians want to force their anti gay beliefs on all of us.

The problem here is that some people want to impose laws based on their personnal religious beliefs. These same people would outright reject the idea of a law based on the Coran that forced women to cover themselves completly.

If it's right for one religion to impose their beliefs on non believers then it's ok for other religions to do the same.

That's why religion should never be used to make laws.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by AVRO1
The problem here is that some people want to impose laws based on their personnal religious beliefs.

Avro, the laws are already imposed and have been in force for decades if not centuries.

The problem here is that some people want to change the laws based upon their personal beliefs.

Who is driving the change?

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Silat
Im glad you see that we are all equal to be what we want to be. Even you..
And you are just a copy cat

Of course we are.  You can be as homo as you'd like.  That's your right.  You can get married, too.  Just like I can.  

To a woman.

Originally posted by Donzo
Equal freedoms?
1) Can I, as a heterosexual male, marry another male?  - NO
2) Can a homosexual male marry another male?  - NO

You can where I live.

[Chairboy]

How very Henry Ford.

[Jackal1]

See Rule #4

[java45]

Originally posted by Nash
Whoah. I love optimism.

However out to lunch it may be....

If you think this simple semantic solution will quiet their jihad, then be prepared for a shock.

There's no backing down. There's no "well okay, we can agree to disagree."

Capitulating to any other point of view - giving up any ground -  is nothing other than a capitulation to Satan. Sound crazy? Yeah, me too.

You think they gonna compromise on hell? Come on. No - they aint. Their whole entire gig can be summed up as:

"Our way or bust." Because....

Thars no way to negotiate with Satan. There's no middle ground. Them and the Devil aren't gonna craft some nifty piece of bipartisan legislation. Forget about it.

There is only "my way" or highw... er, hell. So - not an option.

The sooner folks get that, the better they understand where these folks are coming from.

Let's see if we understand where their comming from, how about just a natural desire to be married? The Gays I mean of course, and the Lesbians as well, all they want is the same rights as all of us have under the LAW. It has nothing to do with the Church and certainly nothing to do with Satan, unless you wish to also point to Earthly Governments as Satan inspired which I am certain you do'nt.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by java45
Let's see if we understand where their comming from, how about just a natural desire to be married? The Gays I mean of course, and the Lesbians as well, all they want is the same rights as all of us have under the LAW. It has nothing to do with the Church and certainly nothing to do with Satan, unless you wish to also point to Earthly Governments as Satan inspired which I am certain you do'nt.

They do have the same rights under law.