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Friday Squad Operations July 1st canceled tonight.
« on: July 01, 2005, 07:37:32 PM »
Kinda shows the importance of Frame C.O.’s when 200 plus players are not flying in a planned event.  ;) Anyway we will run Frame 2 on Friday July 8th. Numbers would have been off for some squads anyway due to the 4th of July. Maybe it is a blessing in disguise. :)

Dace your still on for Frame 2 next Friday the 8th. Strongly suggest you or one of your squadies gets them out this time. I know you had power/computer problems most of the week. If it happens again get to a phone booth and call a squadie to get them out.
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2005, 08:05:01 PM »
Thanks for the phone call, daddog.

Good timing, I just got back from finding out the autoshutoff feature of pump #2 at the local Quik Shop doesn't function.

Not a real good feeling of gasoline on your thighs while you're sitting on your motorcycle.

And it's running down the frame..

Near the exhaust manifold...

Time to give the ol' girl a bath. ( After changing shorts )
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2005, 08:11:46 PM »
please, can we just have a fight in the SEA, my wife goin kill me if she finds out FSO canceled(she knows what the MA is and looks like, so I cant fool her that way.) She wanted to head to the shore tonite, talked her out of it with too much traffic, and FSO.


uh oh here she comes,  pulling out old frame ords, make it look like usual Friday night.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2005, 08:12:52 PM »
:rofl

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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2005, 09:01:01 PM »
Hard to express my dissapointment in this late cancellation. I flew home early this morning so I could sleep prior to the event. Earlier notification or another squad stepping up to get the orders out should have happened.

I know life happens but I thought that is why there was an email to C.O.'s asking about interest in 1July. If the squad cant make the orders then why not give notification and find someone to do them in abscense, isnt that one of the rules to FSO? Why does the side who is prepaired have to suffer. Seems there should be a penalty assessed to the Allied for not following the rules.

Apologies for expressing my frustration, just been a long week and was really looking forward to tonight. Daddog and all the work you do for us to make this happen.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2005, 09:58:29 PM »
ok,ive got no appologies for my words of discust at this decision.we asked that you cancel this a week ago and you said no.so i took off from work to plan this for our side,then posponed a date to be here to run it,now your gonna tell me that its a blessing in disquise?bull chit.im so sick of the disorganization of tods.this is absolutly rediculouse.you guys are makin some good money with this game,how bout payin for someone to run this that knows what they are doin?how friggin hard is it to decide wheather to do it or not?o ..the other side isnt ready?well tough .know what happens when the enemy attacks and your not ready?you die.o but lets give them a second chance,after all ,the guy who runs this flies with them right?the people in squads are the ones who are regulars,they are your bread and butter.how bout givin them some one who isnt biased and knows what they are doing instead of this hack that makes it up as he goes.

o, and ya...give the squad who couldnt get it together enough to spend 5  hours to send out orders another chance,just hope their one computer is doin good.yall takin turns flyin?let us know if we should show up or not,ok?one hours notice will be fine.hack.suk.

i dont care im pissed,i will not plan orders for next week.i did my part,let someone else waste thier time.fate is not doing orders next week,weve done our rotation.by the way i have all of my squad ready for tods,even though its a holiday.

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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2005, 10:03:14 PM »
LOL Doobs! I think the CM’s have setup a Snapshot for those who want to play. :)

I hear you Kev. I know there are many players like you who have planned their day/week around making this Friday night. Maybe moved a date or two, dinner movie, made special arraignments with their wife. This is very common. For many Friday Squad Operations has turned Aces High into a “hobby” not just a game. It certainly has for me. Many times when my wife and I discuss the weekly goings on we always factor in Friday nights and try to avoid planning things on that night. I know “many” players do also.

Yes there are rules and serious consequences for Squads who don’t hold up their end of the bargain. Everyone who is a C.O. or X.O. has to be a Frame C.O. sooner or later. All squads are given the benefit of the doubt the first time something like this happens. Real life gets in the way for all of us. Nevertheless if it happens again they are removed from Squad Operations. This is why we insist on 2 contacts for every squad. If something happens to one C.O. or X.O. the other needs to deal with it or you have to cancel an event for over 200 players like we did tonight. Thankfully this is rare. I think maybe 4 times in all the years we have been running the TOD/Squad Operations.
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2005, 10:20:13 PM »
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ok,ive got no appologies for my words of discust at this decision.we asked that you cancel this a week ago and you said no.so i took off from work to plan this for our side,then posponed a date to be here to run it,now your gonna tell me that its a blessing in disquise?bull chit.
I did not say it was a blessing in disguise, I said it may be. Obviously it was not for you.

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im so sick of the disorganization of tods.
This event has been called Squad Operations for about 2 years now.

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this is absolutly rediculouse.you guys are makin some good money with this game,how bout payin for someone to run this that knows what they are doin?
I am not making any money. Nor are any CM’s. Could be why the TOD’s…err Squad Operations sucks. Contact support@hitechcreations and let them know how you feel about the CM’s and our events.

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how friggin hard is it to decide wheather to do it or not?
Was not hard at all. The original question about running Squad Ops this Friday had to do with it being the 4th of July weekend. The reason is was canceled now was do to a player, not a CM.

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..the other side isnt ready?well tough .know what happens when the enemy attacks and your not ready?you die.
You ever fly for 2 hours in Squad Operations without any action? That is rare, very rare and it is because everyone knows what target they are to hit and target they are to protect. Had we ran it tonight without any Allied orders you might have had 50 or more players not see any action.  

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the people in squads are the ones who are regulars,they are your bread and butter.how bout givin them some one who isnt biased and knows what they are doing instead of this hack that makes it up as he goes.
Not sure what you mean? Who is bias?

Thankfully the orders for frame 2 have already been posted and or sent out by Damnname so you don’t have to worry about them.
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2005, 10:21:03 PM »
so lets see the consequences?take away thier cv's and take away a37 for the next round?hell,why not give us a base in thier back lines "just to make it interesting"?
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2005, 10:24:42 PM »
I will leave that up to the Admin CM who wrote this event.

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take away thier cv's and take away a37 for the next round?hell,why not give us a base in thier back lines "just to make it interesting"?
Of course if we did that then both sides would have to "redo" their orders.  I know of at least one side who will not do that. ;)
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Re: consequences
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2005, 10:27:42 PM »
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so lets see the consequences?take away thier cv's and take away a37 for the next round?hell,why not give us a base in thier back lines "just to make it interesting"?


Hell while your at it, how about us allied up in sopwith camels.

maybe a blimp or two.


BTW daddog were cutting your salary by 50%, lets see 50% from nothing hmmmmmmm
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2005, 10:33:03 PM »
frame 2 was just canceled...?damname is in my squad?we have sent no orders?you plan on just runnin this like thier was no delay?sorry but giving me (the one who wrote the orders for damname)2 days to plan and them (the ones who did nothing)10 days to plan is unacceptable.redo the entire thing from scratch,give to the next squad.it was a holiday,so we didnt fight.next.


as far as no action goes,our target was the cv's.our side would have gladly gone in against a disorganized side and creamed the target,and got home safe.sounds real boring huh?

squad ops is supposed to be about how well squads work together,this is a clear sign of how the enemy works as a squad.they should have had to run as is.not given a time out.

what i mean by bias is,what side did you fly on last week,when you decided to award a37 to the enemy even though they didnt actually destroy it?what side you supposed to fly this week?:mad:
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2005, 10:41:42 PM »
i dont claim to know who is really in charge of this,daddog,maybee im yellin at you and your not the one,but my point  remains.whoever is in charge is not doin a good job,and im getting tiered of paying for it.to all volunteers.im one as well, so i know what you do.my point is you all know how disorganized tods is(i dont care what u call it).we all pay to play,i think a couple of paid hours toward making this right is in order.


and ya,if you cant prepare for the enemy,you should be in a blimp.
didnt see you sayin anything when they gave you a base for nothin doobs?
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2005, 10:44:36 PM »
Better make it 90% Doobs. I see this going downhill fast. :)

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frame 2 was just canceled...?damname is in my squad?
??? Damnnam posted you guys sent out the orders. I was not questioning that.

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we have sent no orders?you plan on just runnin this like thier was no delay?sorry but giving me (the one who wrote the orders for damname)2 days to plan and them
KO the Admin CM for this event should have had the orders out to FATE by Sunday or Monday. Are you saying you did not get the orders till Wed?  I know he was sick with the flu last week, but as far as I know he got the orders out on time. If they were late for one side they were late for both.

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what i mean by bias is,what side did you fly on last week,when you decided to award a37 to the enemy even though they didnt actually destroy it?what side you supposed to fly this week?
I flew for the Allied last week and will for frames 2 and 3. I made no decision to award A37. That is up to the Admin CM who is 68KO.
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2005, 10:46:29 PM »
k,so whats your part in this dad?
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