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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2005, 04:05:56 PM »
By document I meant the one that names Rove as the leak source.

I doubt the Italian stuff was illegal.  Disinformation for national security purposes.  Hell, a person who exposes the disinformation is the one who ought to be in trouble.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2005, 04:13:06 PM »
Oh, well then it's not so much a document as it is a whole ton of documents - turned over by Time Inc.

Depends also upon how much Cooper and Judith Miller enjoy prison food.

This is happening.

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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2005, 04:15:02 PM »
So you think the documents aren't enough to convict Rove, and it will take the testimony of Cooper & Miller to get it done?

I think this is the law that Rove would be guilty of violating if he is indeed the leak.

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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2005, 04:15:43 PM »
I'm honestly not sure.

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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2005, 04:20:27 PM »
Roger that, just wondering if anybody had worked it all out.

Here's part of the law that might be a problem:
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knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States


If Rove can plausibly deny that he knew about "affirmative measures..." then he could get off.

Even if they don't get him on this one, there's probably enough there to justify a crapload of investigating and grand juries, etc,  and as we saw with Bubba you can always find something on these weasels if you look hard enough.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2005, 04:20:33 PM »
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So you think the documents aren't enough to convict Rove, and it will take the testimony of Cooper & Miller to get it done?

I think this is the law that Rove would be guilty of violating if he is indeed the leak.


Section (a), specifically.

edit: Exactly Funked. But I'd have a hard time believing that Rove didn't have the complete low-down on this chick. He's got it on everybody.

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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2005, 04:24:00 PM »
I'm sure he knew.  But if he has plausible deniability then he could get off.  These are smart weasels.  DC is a big natural selection machine for weasels.  Survival of the weaseliest.

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2005, 04:24:23 PM »
lol - true. :)

Yeah, yer right.

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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2005, 05:06:31 PM »
I smell Presidential pardon for a true republican patriot!
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2005, 05:22:28 PM »
If he's convicted, I hope he spends real time with real criminals.
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2005, 06:04:00 PM »
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I'm sure he knew.  But if he has plausible deniability then he could get off.  These are smart weasels.  DC is a big natural selection machine for weasels.  Survival of the weaseliest.


That all depends on what your definition of the word weasel is.....
it can very as much as what your definition of the word is...is.

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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2005, 06:24:03 PM »
"Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals... except the weasel."
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I lok forward to seeing an official response from the administration on this.  Some directions I can see this going:

1: Deny it.  (well, they've already done that, so this is most likely)
2: Downplay it, say it's no big deal.
3: Hellfire and recriminations. (Unlikely)

Any other ways this could develop?
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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2005, 06:26:46 PM »
I think you give them too much credit... They will discredit.

It's what they always do. I don't think they've the imagination for anything else.

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« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2005, 06:30:56 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2005, 06:56:52 PM »
Just a quick questionwould you guys be in such an uproar if a Administration you agreed with was in power?..I don't think so..in fact the liberal media probrably wouldn't have even reported it, so it wouldn't even be an issue. You guys are worse than a pack of wolves.
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