Author Topic: Ah2 Fm (Read 1349 times)

spitfiremkv · « **on:** July 03, 2005, 09:43:11 AM »

Say what you might, but in AH2 I do things with my plane I wouldn't even dare to try in FB.
Spin recovery is much quicker, there seems to be a lot more power available and aerodynamic drag is a lot less also.
To rush a landing I have to make shuttle-like S turns.
Planes are much more docile and easy to fly.
I'm not even talking about complex engine management here.
I think HTC could implement a better FM.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #1 on:** July 03, 2005, 09:45:12 AM »

Do you want harder, or do you want more realistic? There is a difference.

-- Todd/Leviathn

DipStick · « **Reply #2 on:** July 03, 2005, 10:06:03 AM »

How many of these warbirds have you actually flown in real life to be such an expert on flight models?

Or are you comparing one "game" to another?

Waffle · « **Reply #3 on:** July 03, 2005, 10:17:43 AM »

turn yer stall limiter off

ALF · « **Reply #4 on:** July 03, 2005, 11:46:00 AM »

I can tell you that some planes are easy to recover, some aint. Take a p-51 will 100% fuel and try and pull a hard turn, and recover....then talk to me about easy recovery:eek:

As far as drag goes, it varries greatly by aircraft type. Some seem to glide very well....others drop out of the sky like bricks when the engine shuts off.

spitfiremkv · « **Reply #5 on:** July 03, 2005, 12:43:29 PM »

I based my comparison mainly on the flight modelling of the 109G10 in AH2 and Il2FBAEP.
Flying the pattern with flaps and gear down in IL2 is a lot harder than in AH.
Spins take a lot longer to recover from and develop into flat spins much more easily.

Kwan · « **Reply #6 on:** July 03, 2005, 12:57:03 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Waffle BAS
turn yer stall limiter off

ROFL

Fruda · « **Reply #7 on:** July 03, 2005, 01:59:22 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by spitfiremkv
I based my comparison mainly on the flight modelling of the 109G10 in AH2 and Il2FBAEP.
Flying the pattern with flaps and gear down in IL2 is a lot harder than in AH.
Spins take a lot longer to recover from and develop into flat spins much more easily.

Doesn't mean it's more realistic. IMO, Il-2 feels like you're flying on the moon. It's way too light.

Furball · « **Reply #8 on:** July 03, 2005, 02:27:07 PM »

i have never liked the IL2 FM.

Nothing should be added which takes the emphasis off of concentrating on fighting and having fun. You dont want 99% of the people flying about in the MA too busy keeping their aircraft in the air to worry about fighting anything. That is what MS Flight sim is for.

spitfiremkv · « **Reply #9 on:** July 03, 2005, 06:15:57 PM »

au contraire, that's exactly what I want. and a lot of other people want the same thing.
as real as possible!

hitech · « **Reply #10 on:** July 03, 2005, 06:33:51 PM »

Don't use another sim to make an argument for reality.

If you wish to make reality arguments, you had best start with real numbers.

HiTech

Kubwak · « **Reply #11 on:** July 03, 2005, 06:48:22 PM »

hot damn!

HT's spelling ees not porkd!:D

you da man HT!:aok

Slash27 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 03, 2005, 07:35:16 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by spitfiremkv
au contraire, that's exactly what I want. and a lot of other people want the same thing.
as real as possible!

Some one already asked but Ill ask again. How do you know whats more "real" ?

Angus · « **Reply #13 on:** July 03, 2005, 07:43:30 PM »

HT flew P51's, and Oleg didn't, hehe.

Anyway, being on airshows, I've seen a nifty little Spitty doing thing's I can't on AH!

And Il-2 is mushy anyway

spitfiremkv · « **Reply #14 on:** July 03, 2005, 08:09:49 PM »

I some hours in Pipers and Cessnas.
The feel in IL2 is closer to the feel of real flying.

Hitech, unless somewhere in AH there's a real-time viscous turbulent flow CFD subroutine, numbers don't mean much. Sure you can use tables with engine performance and stability and control variables and interpolate between them but when you bring your plane on the edge of stall it all goes out the window, all those precomputed numbers.

And there is no such subroutine because a CFD analysis of a 3D object for just one airspeed and one AOA can take anywhere from hours to weeks -depending on how fine your mesh is-and that's on computers much more powerful than a regular PC.