Author Topic: P51 FM Changes? (Read 1992 times)

Neil Stirling1 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 04, 2005, 10:49:34 AM »

Hi Widewing, do you think you could send me a copy of the "synopsis of the Eglin data"

I have some interesting original P38 information.

Neil.

Widewing · « **Reply #16 on:** July 04, 2005, 11:18:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Grits
I have not tested it, but that means the P-38's should be slower after dropping ord than if they launch light, just like the 190's.

No, the pylons with their bomb shackles were standard items on the P-38s, they were not removed. Speeds should be the same whether or not you had previously carried ordnance or taken off clean. I have tested this and the AH-2 P-38s are correctly modeled. There is no additional drag resulting from previously carrying bombs.

The only exception to that should be the rocket trees as these were not part of the basic weight. However, my testing shows that the AH2 P-38L (for example) still does 344 mph on the deck with or without the rocket trees (empty). This is not correct as these certainly added drag and were not part of the basic aircraft.

My regards,

Widewing

Widewing · « **Reply #17 on:** July 04, 2005, 11:20:02 AM »

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Originally posted by Neil Stirling1
Hi Widewing, do you think you could send me a copy of the "synopsis of the Eglin data"

I have some interesting original P38 information.

Neil.

Sure, PM me your e-mail address.

My regards,

Widewing

EagleEyes · « **Reply #18 on:** July 04, 2005, 07:09:54 PM »

Please correct me if im wrong but wasn't the P-51 the best fighter from 25k to the deck? On multiple occations i hve flown the P-51 at 20-23k and it doesn't turn as well as it does on the deck. Also when you try to turn fight with it, it stalls real easy at that altitude. Maybe i don't know what im talken about bout im 80% that the P-51 was an excellent overall fighter at nearly all alts.

~~Egle31st~~

Widewing · « **Reply #19 on:** July 04, 2005, 07:33:42 PM »

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Originally posted by EagleEyes
Please correct me if im wrong but wasn't the P-51 the best fighter from 25k to the deck? On multiple occations i hve flown the P-51 at 20-23k and it doesn't turn as well as it does on the deck. Also when you try to turn fight with it, it stalls real easy at that altitude. Maybe i don't know what im talken about bout im 80% that the P-51 was an excellent overall fighter at nearly all alts.

~~Egle31st~~

That's normal behavior above 20k, and has a similar effect on all fighters.

My regards,

Widewing

Morpheus · « **Reply #20 on:** July 05, 2005, 11:27:29 AM »

P51D in AH2 is IMO the best non perked fighter in the game.

Large payload. (which i'll never use tho)
Excellent Range.
Good firepower.
Handles like a dream fast or slow.
And its sexy as hell.

The 2nd best non perked fighter in the game for me is the PJ.

dedalos · « **Reply #21 on:** July 05, 2005, 11:55:16 AM »

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Originally posted by Morpheus
P51D in AH2 is IMO the best non perked fighter in the game.

Large payload. (which i'll never use tho)
Excellent Range.
Good firepower.
Handles like a dream fast or slow.
And its sexy as hell.

The 2nd best non perked fighter in the game for me is the PJ.

Pffft, you only like it cause is is easy mode. Lets see you try in a Spitfire sometime

slimm50 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 05, 2005, 12:10:00 PM »

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Originally posted by EagleEyes
Please correct me if im wrong but wasn't the P-51 the best fighter from 25k to the deck? On multiple occations i hve flown the P-51 at 20-23k and it doesn't turn as well as it does on the deck. Also when you try to turn fight with it, it stalls real easy at that altitude. Maybe i don't know what im talken about bout im 80% that the P-51 was an excellent overall fighter at nearly all alts.

~~Egle31st~~

I love the P51D. I've given nearly all the planes in AH a serious chance over the years, but I always come back to the 51D. I have fought Corsairs to a stalemate, and even beaten one, once, below 15K. Above that, however, the Corsair pretty much owns the pony. So my take is you pretty much have to fly the 51D with not only your opponent's plane's abilities in mind, but also very aware of your altitude since the Pony's strengths/ weaknesses are so pronounced above/ below that "magic" plane.

Morpheus · « **Reply #23 on:** July 05, 2005, 12:29:23 PM »

Ive had some really great fights in a 51. I think the best of all were in a 51.

Be it turn fighting or me and a wingman fighting in a place with very bad odds, its a great bird.

F4u's are tough to beat in a 51. They can be beaten though.

slimm50 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 05, 2005, 02:01:08 PM »

IIRC the Hog I beat was Lars, a couple of years ago. He was a better stick than me, but I think he underestimated the Pony, much to his embarrassment.

Furball · « **Reply #25 on:** July 05, 2005, 02:28:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Morpheus
P51D in AH2 is IMO the best non perked fighter in the game.

What he said, IMO P51D is the easiest plane (non perk) in the game to kill in and live in.

Fruda · « **Reply #26 on:** July 05, 2005, 03:09:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Furball
What he said, IMO P51D is the easiest plane (non perk) in the game to kill in and live in.

Really? For me, it's the Spitfire.

AKDogg · « **Reply #27 on:** July 05, 2005, 03:12:55 PM »

thrila · « **Reply #28 on:** July 05, 2005, 05:20:06 PM »

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Furball · « **Reply #29 on:** July 05, 2005, 05:24:43 PM »

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Originally posted by thrila
furball before you say anything i didn't auger the ack got me.

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