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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #60 on: July 08, 2005, 11:20:20 AM »
Nilsen, I know what you were getting at. I was simply reminding you that the question was to define race. My drivers license, pilots license, A&P certificate do not define race. Certainly not in the context of the thread here.
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« Reply #61 on: July 08, 2005, 11:26:08 AM »
oh... my bad, i misunderstood thats all. i thought he meant that somewere on a driverslicense there was a field that said what race the license holder "belonged" to .

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« Reply #62 on: July 08, 2005, 11:33:44 AM »
You are asked your race on many forms including hiring and loan applications.

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« Reply #63 on: July 08, 2005, 01:15:48 PM »
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I never could answer correctly, when the only options were
white
black
asian/pacific asian
native indian

and never included "mixed".


I answer American.

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« Reply #64 on: July 08, 2005, 01:20:04 PM »
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First no one has provided any proof that there is any clause like that in his contract so any speculation about it is just that, speculation. Much like speculating on the furnishings Santa has in his living room at the North Pole.

All Karaya has posted about is experiance in watching movies where the script may or may not call for any kissing scenes. Again pure speculation unless he has a script excerpt in hand and can show what was written. What kind of chair does Santa have, a recliner or rocker?

Laz I didn't bring up the issue of "race". I just asked for it to be defined in the context of the thread. There are 2 primary people posting on this thread mentioning race specifically or the alleged "contract clause" and or the alleged bias against Washington kissing a "white woman". I am simply asking what the definition of "race" is. I'll have additional questions later depending on the answer I get, if any.


If anybody has to "explain what Race means" to you, you are out of your league sir.

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« Reply #65 on: July 08, 2005, 02:24:05 PM »
You know there will come a day when our race is defined as Human ! (I hope )
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« Reply #66 on: July 08, 2005, 02:31:41 PM »
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You know there will come a day when our race is defined as Human ! (I hope )
doubtful

heck there are distinct differences in black people in america,and blacks in africa.

they genetically do not resemble each other. IIRC i saw something about how blacks in america more resemble europeans on the genetic level now.

if in 300 years people who came from africa do not genetically resemble their direct ancestors, imagine in 3000. now add in asia, south america, india.... the only thing i actually see is there being more divisions, and distinctions than in the past.

entropy? things move from order TO disorder?

more "races" and more clutural differences to come than in the past i think.
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« Reply #67 on: July 08, 2005, 02:47:37 PM »
Well actually entropy will eventually lead to the disappearance of distinct races.

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« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2005, 02:53:28 PM »
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I wonder why he has a "I refuse to kiss a White woman" clause in his contracts.


It is well known that they have cooties, and besides if you do, everyone starts singing "ANGELINA and DENZEL SITTING IN A TREE, K-I-S-S-I-N-G..." and then you have to sit by yourself in the lunch room.

I believe his contract mentions that he prefers to express his affection by chasing them around the swings with a worm at recess.

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« Reply #69 on: July 08, 2005, 02:55:55 PM »
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You know there will come a day when our race is defined as Human ! (I hope )
that day will come when there is space aliens to kill.
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« Reply #70 on: July 08, 2005, 04:24:28 PM »
I was wondering if anyone had the strength of their convictions to define the term "race" as it pertains to people. Apparently not. I brought it up as there were posts claiming race was a definate situation. I was hoping some would enlighten us as to exactly how there are seperate "races" and why it means anything.

FWIW I define race in regards to humans in a simple manner. There is one race of sentient people on the planet, specifically human. They just come in different shapes, sizes and skin tones with just 2 genders.
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« Reply #71 on: July 08, 2005, 05:40:15 PM »
I got a kick out of this from the snopes link:

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Denzel Washington was out with friends when a homeless man asked him for money. The actor's entourage ignored the beggar, but Washington handed him a $100 bill. The man began to cry, then grabbed a passerby and choked out, "Will Smith just gave me a hundred bucks!"


LOL. It reminded me of something Barney might say on he Simpsons :)

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« Reply #72 on: July 08, 2005, 06:47:39 PM »
Black- African-American
White- Caucasian
etc....

I don't if this is a New Age progression, but saying Denzel does not kiss human females is in no way descriptive of what supposedly goes on.  Denzel does not kiss WHITE females.   We are all equal in stature.  To say we are all the same physically is ludicrous and too-PC if you ask me.

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« Reply #73 on: July 09, 2005, 10:21:05 AM »
Rightfoot,

If you are responding to me please explain why you feel it is so.

Also if you are speaking to me don't assume I have anything to do with "PC". My opinion has nothing to do with "new age", it's based on my experiances in bigotry and prejudice not to mention that "parts" seem to be rather interchangable irregardless of skin tone and genetics are rather curiously intermingled. I simply do not see nor do I recognise any hard lines regarding differences based on appearances.

As far as I know there is only an allegation that Denzel does not kiss females of any particular color. No one has provided the alleged clause or proof that he has specified any bias of this nature. FWIW I don't recall seeing Clint Eastwood in any scenes kissing a woman of color either. Does he have a clause as well?
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« Reply #74 on: July 09, 2005, 11:51:41 AM »
Mav I was going to use pictures of known celebrities black and white to show their differences physically.  But in these times, I could not find one picture in which maybe Beyonce Knowles had a clearly African-American feature.  It's a simple fact that Nicole Kidman could have the same feature as well.  The only difference being skin color.  So, in essence you are right, it is hard to really define race, mostly due to the fact that the ""-American after most names has given everyone similar traits.